Is this true?
ok, so i purchased a blox intake manifold like 3-4 months ago, and im finally getting around to putting it in.. but i had a guy today tell me that i will lose low end power if i install it.. is this true?? if so im gonna be bummed lol...
Im not a pro on this. But we are putting a blox (same as Skunk2 engineering) because it is shorter, and shorter intake is supposed to give low end.
We were gonna go with the bbk (inexpensive and looks sick) But its a longer intake, and that would give us top end.
But we have Blox stage 2 cams, Supertech valves, springs and TI retainers... Sitting on usdm type R high comp pistons.
We were gonna go with the bbk (inexpensive and looks sick) But its a longer intake, and that would give us top end.
But we have Blox stage 2 cams, Supertech valves, springs and TI retainers... Sitting on usdm type R high comp pistons.
yes you will definitely lose low end power... or some will say your torque curve will be shifted.. from 1-3k rpm it will feel sluggish. without any supporting mods to the head, you are losing power everywhere throughout the powerband and a nasty huge dip at 4400 on a stock p72 ecu. stick with the dual stage manifold. its much better for a stock car
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DC2SiR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yes you will definitely lose low end power... or some will say your torque curve will be shifted.. from 1-3k rpm it will feel sluggish. without any supporting mods to the head, you are losing power everywhere throughout the powerband and a nasty huge dip at 4400 on a stock p72 ecu. stick with the dual stage manifold. its much better for a stock car</TD></TR></TABLE>
True, we have kids come all the time to the shop and we tell them the same thing but they want to pay to have it installed anyways. Then complain that there friends are beating them worser. with out cams, headers, or internals keep your stock.
True, we have kids come all the time to the shop and we tell them the same thing but they want to pay to have it installed anyways. Then complain that there friends are beating them worser. with out cams, headers, or internals keep your stock.
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i have dc sports hearder, apexi exhaust, aem CAI, skunk 2 throttle body.... shold this help at all if i do end up getting it installed?
i had a blox manifolf on my 93 gsr, and i didnt feel any loss at all, maybe some gain. i guess it depends on you mods.
i think you will ok tho. its worth it. and gain mad top end compaired to stock!
i think you will ok tho. its worth it. and gain mad top end compaired to stock!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blowndc2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i had a blox manifolf on my 93 gsr, and i didnt feel any loss at all, maybe some gain. i guess it depends on you mods.
i think you will ok tho. its worth it. and gain mad top end compaired to stock!</TD></TR></TABLE>
Dont post crap. DC2SiR anwsered the question and now all your doing is filling the thread with usless info.
i think you will ok tho. its worth it. and gain mad top end compaired to stock!</TD></TR></TABLE>Dont post crap. DC2SiR anwsered the question and now all your doing is filling the thread with usless info.
Yes You Will Lose Some Low End Torque, I Doubt You Would Be Able To Feel It On The Butt-Dyno Though, I Have A AEM Type R CAI, JG 65MM TB, Skunk 2 IM, JG 4-2-1 Header, Modified 2-1/4" Collector, 2-1/4" Carsound Cat, And 2-1/4" Exhaust, And Here Is My Dyno

And That IS Tuned On A Hondata S300, You Can't Really Utilize An I.M. Without Cams Or Else You Will Lose Low-End Torque As Well As A Torque Canyon At About 4700 RPM, However I Have A Gs-R So VTEC Does Have Something To Do With That Drop In Torque. Bottom Line You Need Cams To Make A I.M. Effectively Work

And That IS Tuned On A Hondata S300, You Can't Really Utilize An I.M. Without Cams Or Else You Will Lose Low-End Torque As Well As A Torque Canyon At About 4700 RPM, However I Have A Gs-R So VTEC Does Have Something To Do With That Drop In Torque. Bottom Line You Need Cams To Make A I.M. Effectively Work
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94Integra_Ls »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ew, that dip is kinda ugly... is that from the intake mani?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, No CAMS
Yeah, No CAMS
well i got my Intake mani on today,,, i can feel a little bit of a loss in low end,, but top end was increased a great amount... im loving it... it almost feels like v-tec kickin
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94Integra_Ls »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> it almost feels like v-tec kickin </TD></TR></TABLE>
..You know vtec is suppose to be a smooth transition right?
..You know vtec is suppose to be a smooth transition right?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bay Area Baller »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im not a pro on this. But we are putting a blox (same as Skunk2 engineering) because it is shorter, and shorter intake is supposed to give low end.
We were gonna go with the bbk (inexpensive and looks sick) But its a longer intake, and that would give us top end.
But we have Blox stage 2 cams, Supertech valves, springs and TI retainers... Sitting on usdm type R high comp pistons.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You have it backwards. Longer runners benefit low rpms, and shorter runners benefit high rpms.
We were gonna go with the bbk (inexpensive and looks sick) But its a longer intake, and that would give us top end.
But we have Blox stage 2 cams, Supertech valves, springs and TI retainers... Sitting on usdm type R high comp pistons.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You have it backwards. Longer runners benefit low rpms, and shorter runners benefit high rpms.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94Integra_Ls »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you know what i mean</TD></TR></TABLE>
Um, no I don't, you said vtec hits harder, that's not a "good" thing.
Um, no I don't, you said vtec hits harder, that's not a "good" thing.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94Integra_Ls »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">also, what can i add to the engine to pick the peformance back up on the low end? would cams work?? </TD></TR></TABLE>
Add a turbo.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CleanLikeJdm »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">..You know vtec is suppose to be a smooth transition right?</TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CleanLikeJdm »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Um, no I don't, you said vtec hits harder, that's not a "good" thing.</TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94Integra_Ls »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well i got my Intake mani on today,,, i can feel a little bit of a loss in low end,, but top end was increased a great amount... im loving it... it almost feels like v-tec kickin </TD></TR></TABLE>
He has a 94 LS.... it doesnt have vtec... learn how to read
Add a turbo.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CleanLikeJdm »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">..You know vtec is suppose to be a smooth transition right?</TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CleanLikeJdm »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Um, no I don't, you said vtec hits harder, that's not a "good" thing.</TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94Integra_Ls »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well i got my Intake mani on today,,, i can feel a little bit of a loss in low end,, but top end was increased a great amount... im loving it... it almost feels like v-tec kickin </TD></TR></TABLE>
He has a 94 LS.... it doesnt have vtec... learn how to read
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94Integra_Ls »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">also, what can i add to the engine to pick the peformance back up on the low end? would cams work?? </TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Leo.C »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's not going to do you much good w/out some cams and/or tuning.</TD></TR></TABLE>
it was answered in the second post....................
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Leo.C »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's not going to do you much good w/out some cams and/or tuning.</TD></TR></TABLE>
it was answered in the second post....................
its going to shift your powerband up a little, but as for the loss in power...you won't really notice it....when i first installed my HP Racing IM, you could tell there was a low end loss, but the top end was a lot better. Its more for a turbo application however....now that its on boost its awesome!



