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Old Mar 11, 2004 | 07:16 PM
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Ok I got the koni yellow shocks, what springs/springrate should I get for a really stiff/no bodyroll suspension?
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Old Mar 11, 2004 | 07:21 PM
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anything over 200 front and rear is good... i'm lookin ta the RS*R race springs. they are progressive springs tho i'd rather have linear springs for that crisper feel.
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Old Mar 11, 2004 | 07:27 PM
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It really depends upon what you're trying to accomplish. Do you plan on autocrossing or road racing, and how low are you trying to go? Also, have you considered running the controversial "stiff as hell up front, soft as **** in the rear" setup? It's really good for creating oversteer to help the car rotate easier and be more controlled.
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Old Mar 11, 2004 | 07:33 PM
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well I'll be getting 15" rota's asap, and I'll be keeping stock body, so I want to go as low as I can, probably race springs.

I was thinking H&R Race Springs with 800lbs/in for front and 1200lbs/in for the rears. The exact same setup spoon used in terms of lbs/in for their auto-x car.

My goals are for auto-x, so I want really stiff with no bodyroll
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Old Mar 11, 2004 | 07:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kbplaya &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was thinking H&R Race Springs with 800lbs/in for front and 1200lbs/in for the rears. The exact same setup spoon used in terms of lbs/in for their auto-x car.</TD></TR></TABLE>

But are you running the exact tire size and compound that Spoon is? What about chassis braces, vehicle balance, and a thousand other variables? Spoon chose those spring rates to offer the best handling given all of those set variables. Being that your car isn't set up exactly the same way, they may not be ideal spring rates. I don't think it's a bad idea, however, to start with those spring rates, and then experiment from there.
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Old Mar 11, 2004 | 08:17 PM
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ok well would those springrates give me a stiff ride with no bodyroll along with the shortened koni yellows?
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Old Mar 11, 2004 | 08:22 PM
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dude, 800 and 1200lbs is waaaaay to much for a stock chassis car. most i've seen is like 4xxlbs/inch front and rear, and thats on teins coilovers and such.
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Old Mar 11, 2004 | 08:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kendall &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It really depends upon what you're trying to accomplish. Do you plan on autocrossing or road racing, and how low are you trying to go? Also, have you considered running the controversial "stiff as hell up front, soft as **** in the rear" setup? It's really good for creating oversteer to help the car rotate easier and be more controlled.</TD></TR></TABLE>

eh, i've had enough of oversteer. thast what got me into my accident. who says a stock LS can't oversteer?? cuz i got the damage of when it broke loose so ******* easy. my freind who was wiht me said it was like punching the gas on a rwd car and cranking the wheel. granted it was on a turn but damn it broke loose so easy. funny thing is, that when it broke loose it was smooth, i countersteered perfectly. i just gave it too much gas which whipped it around and i slid the other way. then i had no choice but to hit the brakes to bleed off as much force before impact.
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Old Mar 11, 2004 | 09:13 PM
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I run 8k fonr and 6 k rear, dunno what its in american but you can look it up. and its pretty nice for autox but you will get ris of most your body roll with huge sway bars instead of relyeing on only springs to reduce roll.
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Old Mar 11, 2004 | 09:27 PM
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I'm actually running 14k in the front and 6k in the rear and it's amazing. I could use a larger rear anti roll bar, but I'll have to wait and find a good deal on one. Just don't assume that stiffer = better.
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Old Mar 11, 2004 | 09:28 PM
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12k/8k
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Old Mar 11, 2004 | 09:36 PM
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I didnt think koni yellows out of the box could last with rates over the 400-500lbs
range. I have H&R coilovers they are around 350. Way too soft for me.
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 12:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by k279 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I didnt think koni yellows out of the box could last with rates over the 400-500lbs
range. I have H&R coilovers they are around 350. Way too soft for me. </TD></TR></TABLE>

koni provides a revavling service. i think it's like $85+shipping, per shock. beefier valves
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