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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 07:33 AM
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Hey how s it going thanks for looking and any info would help me out alot.

Well I have a 94 Civic Coupe with 94 Ls motor in it. The problem just started about 3 weeks ago. At first it would only happen once in awhile but now it happens all the time. Well here is the problem when I start my car it starts up right away but dies really fast so i try to start it again and the same thing it dies. I have to give it gas till it warms up and then its cool and runs fine. If anyone can help me thank you and if your one of those people that just come on here to give people a hard time then get off and get a life.
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 03:14 PM
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 03:35 PM
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Bring it to a shop they should be able to help you
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 07:04 PM
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Hahahaha thanks for no help if I wanted to take it to a shop I would but I don't that is why I posted my problem up on here so someone can help me if you can't shut the hell up I don't need your dumb *** comments
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 07:20 PM
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yo it might be your starter and make sure da car is off and hit da starter with a pipe with a few taps then turn your car on it should turn on your car. Maybe you engine blew timing belt jumped?, car battery, ignition, spark plugs & wires? But if you tap the starter and it turns on you need a new one you get get brand new $160 but i found some spot $40 for new but might as well go new because theses cars are 17 - 20 years old so everything is wearing down. Good luck
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 08:18 PM
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thanks for the input i will check the starter out tomorrow.
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Old Oct 18, 2010 | 10:47 PM
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dont think it's the starter if your car runs, than dies. could be fuel/compression related, or something wrong with your fitv.
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 04:35 AM
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Lmfao

Im the dumbass??
my advise would've taken you farther than this guys starter theory, which you beliving it shows even more the lack of experience you got and you really should bring you car to a shop before you break something. I was literally trying to help your rude ***


FYI your starter does NOTHING but turn the flywheel to get the crank rotating. You could literally eliminate it and just pop start you car and drivin around without it.

But what do I know Im just a dumbass right?
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 07:57 AM
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Yeah you are a rude dumbass!!!! I'm not going to check my starter I just wanted to be nice and let him know that his opinion was a good try, it was better than "take it to a shop". Is that what you do to all of the posts on here, you tell them to search and to go to shops lol. Man just dont post on my thread anymore unless u have something that is actually helpful... You talk about me having lack of experience this website if you dont know is for the people that have experience to share or help other people with little or no experience so for you to just come on here and say go to a shop that is really no F-ing help if you have so much experience then share with the people you can help out not post some dumbass comments thank you
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 10:13 AM
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If you were to check the starter you just tap it not bang it and it gives the car a final start but that's if its electrical problem it actually works if that's what need replacement. Also if you turn the key and you hear some type of engine noise then it can be something else more like mechanical and do a compression test but you said it runs at times so I have no idea. Anyway Good luck with your car
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by LimeCivic91
If you were to check the starter you just tap it not bang it and it gives the car a final start but that's if its electrical problem it actually works if that's what need replacement. Also if you turn the key and you hear some type of engine noise then it can be something else more like mechanical and do a compression test but you said it runs at times so I have no idea. Anyway Good luck with your car
just stop! really? the car starts as he posted so that means that the starter is fine.

i would check the fuel filter. a buddy of mine had a problem like this and he had bad gas. you will need to drain the tank and put fresh gas in it. has the car sat for a long time in its life?
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 02:01 PM
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yeah thats what i was thinking that it might be the fuel filter or the fuel pump since it starts and then dies but then its koo when it is warm i will check it out thanks for the info i just needed someone to be on the same page as myself if anybody eles has anything eles that they want to add feel free thank you
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Yeah you are a rude dumbass!!!! I'm not going to check my starter I just wanted to be nice and let him know that his opinion was a good try, it was better than "take it to a shop". Is that what you do to all of the posts on here, you tell them to search and to go to shops lol. Man just dont post on my thread anymore unless u have something that is actually helpful... You talk about me having lack of experience this website if you dont know is for the people that have experience to share or help other people with little or no experience so for you to just come on here and say go to a shop that is really no F-ing help if you have so much experience then share with the people you can help out not post some dumbass comments thank you
it wasnt just a dumbass comment its better than getting sent on a wild goose chase by dummys on a forum and ****ing your car up.

your best bet if you really wanna learn yourself is find someone who has experience and work with them hands on. just reading instructions from random people can lead to disaster if you dont know better.
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 04:36 PM
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it wasnt just a dumbass comment its better than getting sent on a wild goose chase by dummys on a forum and ****ing your car up.

your best bet if you really wanna learn yourself is find someone who has experience and work with them hands on. just reading instructions from random people can lead to disaster if you dont know better.
This post would be one to listen to. I have had my fair share of people talking out their *** in posts I have created. Thankfully I knew enough to disregard their comments. My teg would be really f***ed up right now if I believed every post I have read on this forum. I'm not trying to defend ehonda because I havent gotten so much as a simple hello from him but he usually knows what he's talking about. It sucks that all of the members who knew these cars inside and out have either been banned or they have moved on to better more expensive things. And I can more or less narrow your problem down to intake manifold/throttle body. I had the same problem with a b20 vtec. I replaced the intake manifold/ throttle body with skunk2 parts which was my original plan and it fixed the problem. I never hunted it down because the motor was in a race car and it was irrevelant if you had to sit in it for a couple mins holding the gas down to keep it from shutting off. Although you'll probably call that a dumb*** comment as well so good luck. Seems like you will need it.
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 1998GsRIntegra
And I can more or less narrow your problem down to intake manifold/throttle body.
Maybe tps
Probly the map.
Wouldn't know cause he didn't even post if he got a CEL

And don't take offensive I usually don't say "hi"

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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 05:21 PM
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Maybe tps
Probly the map.
Wouldn't know cause he didn't even post if he got a CEL

And don't take offensive I usually don't say "hi"

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Haha. I always figured you were a pretty nice fellow but I could never tell. At least I have a clear picture now.
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by EHondaJDM
Maybe tps
Probly the map.
Wouldn't know cause he didn't even post if he got a CEL

And don't take offensive I usually don't say "hi"

Hi btw
Lol

Well i dont have a CEL if i did i would have put it in my post. anyways i will check out my tps i looked at it today and the wires look like they have been spliced open at one point. so correct me if i am wrong but when i check it with my DMM it is .5 at closed thottle and 4.5 at open right
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Well i dont have a CEL if i did i would have put it in my post. anyways i will check out my tps i looked at it today and the wires look like they have been spliced open at one point. so correct me if i am wrong but when i check it with my DMM it is .5 at closed thottle and 4.5 at open right
Does your CEL come on when you first turn the car on?

Id just swap a tb real quick cause both sensors are a ***** to change if they haven't been before.
Shouldnt be any reading at closed throttle I belive

Did you end up doing the fuel filter
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 08:11 PM
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so correct me if i am wrong but when i check it with my DMM it is .5 at closed thottle and 4.5 at open right
correct .5-1v idle, 4-4.5v wot. koeo 0.5vdc. probe dmm pos. lead to signal, and neg. lead to good ground to confirm a good vref, signal, and ground all at once (koeo). faulty tps usually wont throw a cel.
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 08:58 PM
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Does your CEL come on when you first turn the car on?

Id just swap a tb real quick cause both sensors are a ***** to change if they haven't been before.
Shouldnt be any reading at closed throttle I belive

Did you end up doing the fuel filter
well the fuel filter i am going to change anyway since it has been about 4 years since i did it. I just havent been doing anything yet cuz it has been raining here in CALI rain always makes me lazy.
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 09:01 PM
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correct .5-1v idle, 4-4.5v wot. koeo 0.5vdc. probe dmm pos. lead to signal, and neg. lead to good ground to confirm a good vref, signal, and ground all at once (koeo). faulty tps usually wont throw a cel.
Thanks man big help i will let you guys know what happens as soon as it stops raining over here.
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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 06:04 AM
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Rain won't hurt anything jus make sure your airfilter and any other openings stay covered.

First thing id look at is that wire splice going to the tps before you assume the sensors bad
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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by EHondaJDM
Rain won't hurt anything jus make sure your airfilter and any other openings stay covered.

First thing id look at is that wire splice going to the tps before you assume the sensors bad
Yeah I never assume that a sensor is bad I always check it first I am going to check the wiring first and I know water won't hurt anything I just feel lazy when it rains I am going to do this tomorrow they said it wasn't going to rain
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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 10:37 AM
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Im very surprised nobody pointed to IACV cleaning.... First thing i would do.
https://honda-tech.com/forums/acura-integra-6/%2A%2A%2Ahow-clean%2A%2A%2A-your-iacv-k-idle-air-control-valve-1575913/
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Old Oct 20, 2010 | 12:15 PM
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well i have cleaned that two weeks or so. but thanks anyway
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