Hi,

I'm thinking about possibly purchasing a 2nd Gen Integra for a daily driver and have a few questions. For the time being, I would leave it stock, but sometime down the road I would like to make it into a quick, fun little car that is still daily driveable. My goal is to break into the 14's.

So, would this be possible? Would breaking into the 14's be possible without an engine swap? How much money do you think this is going to cost? What would be the best route to go? I'm assuming forced induction...

Thank you!

 

Boost.

 

I know it would be hard but try to find a 2nd gen GSR and after a few bolt-ons you should be able to get it into the 14's.

 

Would a GSR with bolt ons be high 14's? My only problem with bolt ons is that if I ever wanted to go further and faster, say breaking into the 13's, wouldn't it be a lot harder than if I it was boosted?

 

get a db2. you wont be dissapointed.

 

Sorry, is DB2 another generation? Not super familiar with the Integra chassis codes.

 

its a 92-93 gsr i believe

 

i have one(db2). its the 92-93 gsr. there are several around here. high to mid 14s with bolt ons is not unheard of. some extensive internals and tuning could put you into the migh 13s.

 

u could easily do it with a shot of nos

 

gl finding a DB2, if someone has one they will keep it, after 14 years of existence.

Besides, the DB2's are really not that much faster. my LS motor has beaten a gsr (stock). they are good for their trans. Fi is better in vtec, All motor leave it to a b20 or LS.

displacement = torque, torque = acceleration. HP = bragging rights.

 

go either LS turbo or B20 turbo. best bang for buck IMO

 

b20 + 50 shot will get 14's

 

if my b16 XSi motor will bust out a 15.2 in a 90 LS, I'm sure you could get into the 14s.

 

actually, a perfect run with an intake an exhuast, u might be able to break 14's

 

Thanks guys. I'll just go with a DA LS and probably boost it sometime down the road. Quick question, what motor does the LS come with?

Thanks.

 

1.8 L non -VTEC

 

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I'm thinking about possibly purchasing a 2nd Gen Integra for a daily driver and have a few questions. For the time being, I would leave it stock, but sometime down the road I would like to make it into a quick, fun little car that is still daily driveable. My goal is to break into the 14's.

So, would this be possible? Would breaking into the 14's be possible without an engine swap? How much money do you think this is going to cost? What would be the best route to go? I'm assuming forced induction...

Thank you!</TD></TR></TABLE>

yes, i/h/e weight reduction and a good suspension and tires.

 

Okay, thanks. One final question, is the DA Integra LS commonly boosted? I just want to make sure that if I do go this route and I boost it theres a pretty good amount of knowledge on this method already in case I run into problems...

 

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B18A1. The RS, LS, and GS came with it. The only exception is the DB2 (aka 92-93 GSR) that came with a B17A1.

Be careful though... there ARE certain differences aside from just OBD factor with 90-91 and 92-93 models. If you just plan to boost it won't matter though... lol

 

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There are a lot of people boosting LS motors, but its more common with the G3. There's a few things you might want to do to prepare for boost, but I personally know a G3 integra with a B18A bottom end that he made LS-V-T. He pushes 22psi and is running close to 400whp. that's 13s fo sho.

 

G3?

 

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G3=3rd gen teg( 94-01)

 

i had my DA boosted, was quick, i loved it. Blew out my clutch and sold my kit. Just now finishing it up.

IC piping and downpipe is tricky but not impossible. i say go for it. can easily get a low 14-13 on a turbo LS.

400 whp should be 12's maybe lower

 

bolt ons+ nitrous

my friend ran a 14.7 in his 3rd gen LS IHE, 75 dry shot, and granny shifting it because he "desnt want to ruin his nice tranny"

 

"displacement = torque, torque = acceleration. HP = bragging rights. "

not necessarily true. it's all in the setup. weight, gearing, power distribution, rotating mass, etc all make a difference. mustang gts have more torque than a gsr, and guys around here run with them all the time with just a few boltons. 5th gen preludes have more horsepower and torque than a gsr of any year, and that's down to a drivers race every time. another good example is the s2000. low torque, and lower horsepower than other cars in its class, yet just as quick in almost every respect, especially around turns. the powerband is important. where the car makes its power and torque is more important than how much it makes. in reality you need both to make a car effectively fast. take a mustang and launch lower b/c it has less rpms to play with, but its torque to get it off the line starts low in its band. a civic si would launch higher to be closer to where it's torque starts to jump it off the line and shorten the time it takes to use its horsepower to pull the car, or rather the rate of acceleration. the more torque you have down low the more help you have getting to the meat of the powerband on a honda, and where it makes the most useful power. thats the key. that's why you have to launch a vtec car higher than a non vtec car for comparison. at least that's how i understand it.

some helpful links
http://www.houston240sx.com/fo...=2245

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1632705

http://www.team-integra.net/se...D=286

look at the charts for the bikes in the third link. which engine makes the most of the power it's got? another good comparison is the nsx and the supra tt. supra makes more power, more torque, and is turbocharged. looking at hte specs, the nsx is just as quick (both run 0-60 in about 5-5.5 seconds, and have 1/4 mi times of 14.5-13.0 seconds through the supra will probably yield a higher trap speed . . . its just an example for perspective i know there is more to it than that.

my personal experience (i do not approve of street racing, this was a test just for curiousity in a controled enviornment). . . my friend has a b20 swapped into his g3 integra auto and ran a 16 sec quarter mile. now a 5 speed we estimate would put him into the mid to low 15 second range. thats on a basic bolt on car. mine on the other hand is most likely a low 15 to midhigh 14 second car with similar boltons. our races are always the same, he gets me off the line, and i catch up within a gear and just walk from there. i know im kinda comparing apples to oranges being that his is an automatic but its just another example. now take two automatics, his b20 to my auto tsx. the tsx would be the clear winner yes? more power, more torque, more displacement and vtec. not the case. dead stop, 35 roll, 45 roll, 55 roll, and 80 roll his integra pulls each and every time, even with one less gear, at least to a certain point when the tsx will obvously top out higher.

to the poster above me, i have a friend with a gsr with i/h/e/intake manifold/clutch that ran a 14.6 all motor.

food for thought.