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Old May 16, 2002 | 02:14 PM
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01 gsr. 01 itr cams, skunk2 gear, aem, apexi ws, skunk2 intake mani, dc jdm header, carsound, vafc, and eventually up my compression. is it possible to break into the 13's with this? what kinda wheel hp would i be seeing. or should i get with a different set of cams? should i just stick with usdm r pistons? or b16? give me some pointers




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Old May 16, 2002 | 02:40 PM
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Default Re: possible 13's with this setup? (batboyvaj)

i doubt you will break 13's with that.. but i guess it could happen?
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Old May 16, 2002 | 02:43 PM
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Default Re: possible 13's with this setup? (batboyvaj)

Nope. No 13's for you.

Unless... You gut your car add a clutch, and put on slicks. Then you'll get 13's no problem!!
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Old May 16, 2002 | 03:09 PM
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Default Re: possible 13's with this setup? (reefer_bob)

I'm afraid that reefer_bob is correct. You will not see 13's with that setup. Basically your modifications have just let the car breathe better. I don't see any dramatic power changes other than the ITR cams. Even so, you should go with Toda B's. You will probably be looking at around 165 whp with those mods. I see your car running low to mid 14's if you're a good driver. If you want 13's, you're gonna have to introduce your engine to a little thing called Jackson Racing Supercharger. Good luck.
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Old May 16, 2002 | 04:25 PM
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Default Re: possible 13's with this setup? (reefer_bob)

Nope. No 13's for you.


...If you want 13's, you're gonna have to introduce your engine to a little thing called Jackson Racing Supercharger. Good luck.


Change the cams to Toda B's, Skunk2 Stage 2, JUN 3's, etc, do a little dyno tuning and some CTR pistons...13's should be good...especially with slicks and a clutch and some basic weight savings (drop the jack/spare, 1/4 tank of gas, toss backseats)...HTH...


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Old May 16, 2002 | 05:07 PM
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dang it....yea...prob just a jrsc for me then
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Old May 16, 2002 | 05:46 PM
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Default Re: possible 13's with this setup? (batboyvaj)

how much "raised compression" are you plannin on.....?
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Old May 16, 2002 | 06:15 PM
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are the Jun3s, Toda B's and Skunk Stage2s streetable?
if you get those youd have to replace the whole valve train which is another few hundred.

i was going to go the same setup batboyvaj
i have aem cai/dc header/apexi ws and am planning on gettin skunk2 cam gears with ctr cams and a vafc. i was thinking id be looking at about 170-180 whp on my 98gsr. how much do you think id be making?
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Old May 16, 2002 | 06:20 PM
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Default Re: possible 13's with this setup? (Goy091)

probably not that much...but it could be possible...better to under-estimate and be suprised the over-estimate and be disappointed...you can supposedly hit 200whp with Skunk2 Stage 2 (which are streetable along with Toda B's and JUN 3's) and CTR pitsons, valve train upgrade ($320 for portflow/itr and Ti retainer combo on Port Flow's website), VAFC tuning, 2.5" exhaust (w/ JDM header), ITR AEM (or compareable) intake, Skunk2 IM, etc...

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Old May 16, 2002 | 06:58 PM
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you wont hit 200whp with that set up

you want 13's full interrior, u are going to need about 190whp and 125-130 lb ft.

you want 200 whp NA? this is what you are gonna have to do:

Skunk2 stage 2's, toda spec b's, jun spec 3's
portflo ti retainters and valve springs
12:1 compression pistions ITR or JDM ITR
eagle rods
hondata or a skunk2 ecu and a apex vfac
toda or spoon header
2.5-2.75 in exaust piping
Itr or skunk 2 IM
over bored throttle body
CAm gears
and alot of tuning


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Old May 16, 2002 | 07:04 PM
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Default Re: possible 13's with this setup? (batboyvaj)

no, these are barely considerable as "power" mods...
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Old May 16, 2002 | 07:06 PM
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you wont hit 200whp with that set up

you want 13's full interrior, u are going to need about 190whp and 125-130 lb ft.

you want 200 whp NA? this is what you are gonna have to do:

Skunk2 stage 2's, toda spec b's, jun spec 3's
portflo ti retainters and valve springs
12:1 compression pistions ITR or JDM ITR
eagle rods
hondata or a skunk2 ecu and a apex vfac
toda or spoon header
2.5-2.75 in exaust piping
Itr or skunk 2 IM
over bored throttle body
CAm gears
and alot of tuning

How is that different than what I said? BTW, CTR pistons yeild a 12:1 CR, I used "etc." cuz cam gears and tb are kinda "duh" things to add...and, Hondata is probably overkill, so are Eagle rods, ITR rods if that...


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Old May 16, 2002 | 07:30 PM
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u want 13's- boost...u want 12's- boost with standalone, u want 11's-boost with standalone and built block......u want 10's.....alot of $$$$$

1/4 ets made simple.
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Old May 16, 2002 | 08:43 PM
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Default Re: possible 13's with this setup? (Type S)

Skunk2 stage 2's, toda spec b's, jun spec 3's
portflo ti retainters and valve springs
12:1 compression pistions ITR or JDM ITR
eagle rods
hondata or a skunk2 ecu and a apex vfac
toda or spoon header
2.5-2.75 in exaust piping
Itr or skunk 2 IM
over bored throttle body
CAm gears
and alot of tuning
Good basic list. I'd pick the skunk2 cams, skip the Eagle rods, get ITR outer valvepsrings to go with the Portflow inners, get any basic chip that raises the rev limit (not Mugen or skunk2 which are for radical race motors), pretty much any header with a 2.5" collector, and stay with 2.5" exhaust pipes.
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Old May 17, 2002 | 06:27 AM
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Default Re: possible 13's with this setup? (ridge racer 2)

I used to run consistent 14.5's with my old setup(aem cai, skunk2 mani, skunk2 exhuast, jdm 4-1 w/ cat, and a mugen ecu). My clutch was in really bad condition too. I now have an ITR tranny, new clutch and flywheel. I plan to hit a 14.2 with a better launch cuz of the lsd, and a nice clutch. I then am gonna be putting itr cams, p&p, mill the head and then use a thinner headgasket to bump compression. And i am trying to go for a 13.9.

I think he may be able to make it if he just ups the compression a little something, and gets a good clutch, and some radials.
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Old May 17, 2002 | 02:22 PM
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Default Re: possible 13's with this setup? (tonydatyga)

no, these are barely considerable as "power" mods...
istrongly agree......u can have alot more power with forced induction and with aboutt the same amount of money

na is okay...but in order to take full advantage of the block and head, they have to be built for high compression....pistons rods valves retainers....buuilt for high revs......

but its really hard to break into 13's over 100mph witth stock block/compression and head...with just bolt on's
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Old May 17, 2002 | 07:18 PM
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Default Re: possible 13's with this setup? (batboyvaj)

with the stuff you got, with a port and polish head job, upgraded vavletrain and some more aggressive cams like the skunk2s, will probably land you in the high 13s, provided you can drive it.
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