Pocketlogger.
Well PapaPark, Everyone is entitled to their option, but you obviously never used one. The Pocket Logger is worth every cent. How else are you going to log your ECU data? If you know of a better deal, lets hear it....
If you don't think knowing theses things are important, then you shouldn't be modifying your car.
Just my 2 cents for you all.
I hate to see the Pocket Logger put down, by someone that has never used one.
If you don't think knowing theses things are important, then you shouldn't be modifying your car.
Just my 2 cents for you all.
I hate to see the Pocket Logger put down, by someone that has never used one.
Well PapaPark, Everyone is entitled to their option, but you obviously never used one. The Pocket Logger is worth every cent. How else are you going to log your ECU data? If you know of a better deal, lets hear it....
If you don't think knowing theses things are important, then you shouldn't be modifying your car.
Just my 2 cents for you all.
I hate to see the Pocket Logger put down, by someone that has never used one.
If you don't think knowing theses things are important, then you shouldn't be modifying your car.
Just my 2 cents for you all.
I hate to see the Pocket Logger put down, by someone that has never used one.
I hate to see people put down other people's opinions especially when they don't ever know the other person
Well anyways getting back to subject zazzter do you have one of these things? I was wondering if for what it logs is worth the 175 bucks. Is the info gonna be of some use to me so i can make educated decisions on which direction to take my car? I don't wanna spend the money and it tell me something unimportant know what i mean? Anyways don't listen to Papapark, he drives an auto. Whadda queer! Not putting down auto drivers but it's just that papa park is a queer and he drives and auto.
[Modified by speedymon, 11:47 PM 11/27/2001]
[Modified by speedymon, 11:47 PM 11/27/2001]
Along with an afc, it is the best tunning tool money can buy. You can have 15+ gauges all in one, and it will record in real time all the values the guages read for you to view later. I thought my car was tuned right, then saw the knock counter after a run down the track, just richened it up at those rpm points, boom done. You need this if you are running a turbo on an engoine that isn't made for one. Anyone that tells you otherwise is one of the 99.9% 18 second honduhs out there. BTW the afc will only read 4 parameters, and logs for only 15 second, what about the other 3 second?
-Dan
-Dan
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Well anyways getting back to subject zazzter do you have one of these things? I was wondering if for what it logs is worth the 175 bucks. Is the info gonna be of some use to me so i can make educated decisions on which direction to take my car? I don't wanna spend the money and it tell me something unimportant know what i mean? Anyways don't listen to Papapark, he drives an auto. Whadda queer! Not putting down auto drivers but it's just that papa park is a queer and he drives and auto.
SHUT UP!!!!!!!! I was being serious about my previous post... Here's what you should do. Go ahead and buy it. And when you realize you aren't using it as much as you think you would go sell it on ebay. Oh wait, that's right. You got banned from ebay...hehehe..
oh and I got this girl you need to meet. It's just hard to approach her cause she doesn't speek English that well.
[Modified by speedymon, 11:47 PM 11/27/2001]
SHUT UP!!!!!!!! I was being serious about my previous post... Here's what you should do. Go ahead and buy it. And when you realize you aren't using it as much as you think you would go sell it on ebay. Oh wait, that's right. You got banned from ebay...hehehe..
oh and I got this girl you need to meet. It's just hard to approach her cause she doesn't speek English that well.
[Modified by speedymon, 11:47 PM 11/27/2001]
Oh yeah and dumbass, i think a one time 175 dollar fee is better than the hourly rate and multiple trips to the dynojet. Butt pirate, I plan on moding the car more so i won't use it just once.
first of all, the first comment you made is correct. We are all entitled to our own opinion. Therefore don't try to down mine in the way you are doing so. Maybe for you this thing is worth it. But to me, it's not . Especially to the average modifier if you will. If this was so important and it was a must have, we'd all have one. This is just another device to "log" **** and think you are cool. and for 175 bones I won't give it a second look.
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Also try this thread: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?&i...=770525#770525
[Modified by speedymon, 5:41 AM 11/28/2001]
seems people just want to not spend the $175 bucks on a device that will help them tune their car, they rather spend $2500 bucks plus to fix that great big hole in their block from a untuned motor. They must pray to the motor gods that what they put on their car works and they don't need to tune.. hahahhahah this cracks me up... btw I do not own one of these but I do own a laptop and that cable and use a different program and yes I do tune my own car and I am sick of reading about people who don't want to spend money to make their car fast and just hope by "slapping" parts on their car that it will be fast when the guy next to you spend half the money you did on his parts and is tuned and is smoking the **** out of you.
Boy I tell you what... you can't have a damn opinion around here. Just cause I don't like something makes me a kid with a crappy mentality who gets labeled as a ricer. A ricer would be someone who would buy this thing when they really didn't need it. Speedy, they way you just put it earlier, I can see where this would be beneficial to you especially since you are constantly adding ****. But since I can't back MY ****** OPINION up to the level of ya'lls liking I'm just going to leave this alone.
[qupte]Oh yeah and dumbass, i think a one time 175 dollar fee is better than the hourly rate and multiple trips to the dynojet. Butt pirate, I plan on moding the car more so i won't use it just once.[/quote]
While I like the Pocketlogger and if I was still OBDII Id buy one...you can not comapre it to tuning on a dyno with a real A/F meter. The S-AFC reads the O2 sensor voltage as well (just liek the Pocketlogger does) but comparing the O2 voltage to what happens on the dyno isnt even close...the O2 voltage bearly fluctuates while the A/F coule be fluctuating 1 point of more.
Also the Pocketlogger isnt going to tell you what kind of power your making..so even if you add new mods and "tune" it with the pocketlogger...that doesnt mean the new mod was a good choice...only a dyno will tell you this.
While I like the Pocketlogger and if I was still OBDII Id buy one...you can not comapre it to tuning on a dyno with a real A/F meter. The S-AFC reads the O2 sensor voltage as well (just liek the Pocketlogger does) but comparing the O2 voltage to what happens on the dyno isnt even close...the O2 voltage bearly fluctuates while the A/F coule be fluctuating 1 point of more.
Also the Pocketlogger isnt going to tell you what kind of power your making..so even if you add new mods and "tune" it with the pocketlogger...that doesnt mean the new mod was a good choice...only a dyno will tell you this.
some of you guys are STUPID!!!!! Pocketlogger is an invaluable tool for tuning. All the money spent on parts will get you no where w/o tuning. one of the most most power making technique out there is timing and fuel ratios!!!!!!!!!1
dam Ricers
ps-arguing on the internet is like running in the special olympics....even if you win ..........you are still retarded!!!!!!
liso
dam Ricers
ps-arguing on the internet is like running in the special olympics....even if you win ..........you are still retarded!!!!!!
liso
[qupte]Oh yeah and dumbass, i think a one time 175 dollar fee is better than the hourly rate and multiple trips to the dynojet. Butt pirate, I plan on moding the car more so i won't use it just once.
While I like the Pocketlogger and if I was still OBDII Id buy one...you can not comapre it to tuning on a dyno with a real A/F meter. The S-AFC reads the O2 sensor voltage as well (just liek the Pocketlogger does) but comparing the O2 voltage to what happens on the dyno isnt even close...the O2 voltage bearly fluctuates while the A/F coule be fluctuating 1 point of more.
Also the Pocketlogger isnt going to tell you what kind of power your making..so even if you add new mods and "tune" it with the pocketlogger...that doesnt mean the new mod was a good choice...only a dyno will tell you this.
While I like the Pocketlogger and if I was still OBDII Id buy one...you can not comapre it to tuning on a dyno with a real A/F meter. The S-AFC reads the O2 sensor voltage as well (just liek the Pocketlogger does) but comparing the O2 voltage to what happens on the dyno isnt even close...the O2 voltage bearly fluctuates while the A/F coule be fluctuating 1 point of more.
Also the Pocketlogger isnt going to tell you what kind of power your making..so even if you add new mods and "tune" it with the pocketlogger...that doesnt mean the new mod was a good choice...only a dyno will tell you this.
My bad i by no means mean't to imply that the pocketlogger can replace the Dynojet. What i mean't was that from the pocketlogger you can get a sense of what going with the car and use that to point you in the right direction before you get to the dyno. And when you are on the clock at the dyno you won't be starting out cold.
Oh HX_guy how much better was it going from OBDII to I?? Was it a difference you felt?
[Modified by speedymon, 12:57 AM 11/29/2001]
I'm glad to see everyone here has an OK sense of humor. A little silliness, mixed with some nonsense makes for a good laugh. Most of you fellow/ladies understand what I was trying to say. Any ladies in the place?
Speedymon, the question about the AFC is this, Apexi makes an S-AFC, and an S-AFC for the V-Tech. When I say AFC, I'm really just referring to any air fuel controller. HKS makes a nice unit too.
As for the Pocket Logger, do what you want. The DSM version does have more features, but that has to due with ODBII. Why ya think people switch to ODBI. I can disable injectors, purge my canister, turn on my fuel pump, enable the EGR & the fuel pressure solenoid. So basically ODBII is limited, and the sample rate is S_L_O_W_. Oh well….
If anyone lives near me, and want to race around let me know. I'm always down with a little fun.
Later all
PS Please, no butt pirates.
Zazzster…
Speedymon, the question about the AFC is this, Apexi makes an S-AFC, and an S-AFC for the V-Tech. When I say AFC, I'm really just referring to any air fuel controller. HKS makes a nice unit too.
As for the Pocket Logger, do what you want. The DSM version does have more features, but that has to due with ODBII. Why ya think people switch to ODBI. I can disable injectors, purge my canister, turn on my fuel pump, enable the EGR & the fuel pressure solenoid. So basically ODBII is limited, and the sample rate is S_L_O_W_. Oh well….
If anyone lives near me, and want to race around let me know. I'm always down with a little fun.
Later all
PS Please, no butt pirates.
Zazzster…
HX, the safc will not do anything but give you an instantaneous value. So it doesn’t really help. I'm not cross eyed, so I can't look at the tach and the o2 voltage at the same time. I just log it and view the 12 second log at the end; all graphed in real time. The o2 is a pos compared to the dyno's. But a/f is only part of it, the right mix can be different on each car
-dan
-dan
HX, the safc will not do anything but give you an instantaneous value. So it doesn’t really help. I'm not cross eyed, so I can't look at the tach and the o2 voltage at the same time. I just log it and view the 12 second log at the end; all graphed in real time. The o2 is a pos compared to the dyno's. But a/f is only part of it, the right mix can be different on each car
-dan
-dan
Arrrrrrggg!!!!!!!! I be a butt pirate ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!
but seriously maybe i need to switch to OBDI. Do i need to do alot or just switch the ecu? i have a 96 GSRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!



