First off,let me say my car has NO mickey mouse wiring or nothing in that nature,Its Stock.

So i Jumped in my car....

Hit he Key ignition a Little to Fast...Didnt even wait a second...

Now when i try to start it...It doesnt do anything...

If im lucky,It Sounds and looks like it will turn on...With all lights on cluster and fuel pump priming and my radio working like normal...

But when i crank it...Nothing.....And everything goes blank...Not even my radio turns on.

I had to Push start my car Last night to drive it home...It runs Great...I just CANT turn it on with a key like normal.

So did i FRY my Main Relay?
Or
So did i Fry My ignition Switch?

Is it possible I can damage my starter from starting Way to quickly? Think its FRYED?

I havent checked any fuses yet. I want to source This problem first thing the sun comes out.

 

Ok now it has no power.Anywhere...No lights..No nothing...


Main relay?

 

Check your main power and grounds.

Start by disconnecting the batt. clean both the batt. posts and the cable clamps, and reconnect, if problem still exists, check the batt. to chassis and chassis to engine grounds, same way, remove, clean and reconnect, eyeballing the connections or just tightening them is not the correct way to to go.

No, you can not damage the PGM-FI Main Relay or anything for that matter by "starting the car too quickly", that does not mean the ign. switch is not damaged, [not an uncommon problem on Honda/Acura]... http://techauto.awardspace.com/ignitionswitch.html

Your description of symptoms, "If im lucky,It Sounds and looks like it will turn on...With all lights on cluster and fuel pump priming and my radio working like normal...

But when i crank it...Nothing.....And everything goes blank...Not even my radio turns on"
Is exactly what will happen if you have a poor connection at a main power or ground, [ground is most common] the connection is good enough to "carry" the relatively low load of cluster lights, fuel pump, radio and so on, but the high load, [current requirement] of the starter motor, will "break" the connection. 94

 

Actually,there is NO power now.At all.

And yes the battery is good,I have that NRG ground kit thing (Like the MSD)

Im pretty sure its he MAIN relay for nothing works now,No head lights,No nothing..

 

Not trying to be a d!ck or anything Because i appreciate your help
but you were wrong...(but then again you didn know it was prolly my original relay,maybe its about that time u know?)

It ended up being the Main Relay,I just removed it now...has a Crack in the dead center,And near the weld of it,it actually removed it self from the weld near the crack.

I slammed the relay on the floor,and plugged it back on,And My radio and head lights and everything else started working,But wont turn on because of that crack.Thats the short.

This Problem became because of how quick i turned the ignition on, It is not Cool to be doing that your car what so ever.

Even though i havent bought a new relay
Problem solved is what im going to call it And the lesson learned = Take a Chill pill...Wait for a second to let everything load,lights in cluster,fuel pump to prime fully,etc...The correct way.

 

Terminal 8 on the Main relay is where he damage is.

Dont know what he 8 stands for on the relay or where it goes but im sure its important and needs the power.

 

The PGM-FI Main Relay has absolutely nothing to do with the head lights or the radio.

The PGM-FI Main Relay is two relays on a circuit board inside a plastic box, the first relay is the injector relay, it is turned on by the ign. switch, [#85 of relays coil, #86 is grounded] it supplies power to the injectors, a few engine valve/solenoids, the ECU/ECM, [IPG1 and 2] and the second relays coil, [#86] the second relay is the fuel pump relay, it supplies power to the fuel pump when #85 of it's coil gets a ground from the ECU/ECM.

I'm also not being be dick or anything but your wrong, you obviously have a problem with the PGM-FI Main Relay, but even if removed the radio would still work, the head lights would still work, the engine would still crank, [starter would work] in fact everything except the fuel pump and the injectors and a few engine valve/solenoids would work, problems with the PGM-FI Main Relay are not uncommon on Honda/Acura...
http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/mainrelay.html but it is not your problem, [main problem].

The only thing tat will cause complete loss of power, [nothing works] is a main power or ground connection problem, period.



Just because things started working after you "slammed the relay on the floor,and plugged it back on" ROFL, is simply coincidence, don't plan any long trips untill you fix the real problem or you will find yourself stuck somplace. 94

 

LOL. LOL indeed

 

LOL LOL indeed indeed

 

Yes very important, but then all the terminals on the PGM-FI Relay are important, engine will not run if there is a problem with any one of them, #8 is the ECU/ECM control lead for the fuel pump relay, [ground]. 94

 

Hhahahahaha your funny.

i went ahead and rolled a joint of some bubba kush and got to it my self. Indeed Indeed.

Problem fixed
1. removed old relay
2. Installed del sol relay
3.Now it works back to normal

Dont know what that guy above is talking about saying im wrong....If its back to normal.

No more clicking noises from the relay And the radio stays on ,not like before where it would turn off as soon as i crank the ignition.
My battery is fresh,all the terminals are fresh,we didnt even pop the hood. Simply Replaced the main relay.
Dont know about your car,But when i remove the main relay, my Lights dont work,My radio dont work,Nothing works.
And when i put the relay back on...the radio works like normal,the Lights now turn on,it all works.

Isnt that what the "MAIN" relay is supposed to do,control all the goodies??
at least thats whats happening to my car.

 

The PGM-FI Main Relay, ""MAIN" relay" DOES NOT control the head lights and the radio, if it does on your car you have a serious problem.
As I mentioned, the PGM-FI Main Relay is actually two relays, the fuel injector relay, supplying power to the fuel injectors, a few engine valve/solenoids and the ECU/ECM, [12V+ signal] and the fuel pump relay, supplying power to the fuel pump and that's it.

You got to stop smoking the ganja when working on your car. 94

 

I guess your right.

My car must be re-wired to run this way

I love this main relay,works as a kill switch in a way.


Mods,please delete this thread.thank you.

 

Take my word for it, your cars not wired like that, the relay could not handle the load, unless of coarse a few more relays had been wired, [mickey-moused] into your car, but that's right, you said...
Deleting this tread will not change that. 94

 

the problem is fixed and thats that.

then this car is mickey mouse,but very clean.

hahahaha

 

Untill the next time, "But when i crank it...Nothing.....And everything goes blank...Not even my radio turns on.

But I guess if you can live with it, who am I to care, nuff said. 94

 

LOL! i can make it do that all day any day
just take out the relay
lol no crank or radio.

but when i slap it back on,back to normal.

Sorry my car isnt like everybody elses.Anyhow,the problem is Fixed.And mickey came from disneyland and let me know how it all works since yah it was moused nicely.

And since your going to reply again...Your FAT!