I have a cold air front mount intake for my 99 teg, does the brand really matter? it is some off name but i was thinking about buying a AEM what do you guys think?

 

are you in CA? if not then it doesn't really matter. but I know some no names are not exact fit.

 

Do you mean like the arospeed that has the filter showing through the grill? If so if not, get the aem.

 

as you get past the bolt on phase you will realize, its all just a pipe adn a filter lol

 

Brand name matters about as much as buying a shirt with Tommy written on it.

 

any mandrel bent pipe with a filter is gonna be the same.

 

all that really matters is what type it is i.e. short ram, cold air, or interfooler (front-mount)

 

stock air box,k&n drop in,minus the resonator...works good for me....but..i have a question...ive heard stories of going from the set up i listed to an aem cai u will loose some throttle response and or power...tru or not ....also can someone inform me as to what the" hump" in the power band with the aem cai is....loss of power is what im thinking..but where in the power band and why is there a loss...thanks

 

i dont think intake reallie matters in japan most cars dont use a after market one like honda etc. and evne if it does its like cple hp not reallie of a difference but yea they do sound nice

 

I've have used stock air box with a K&N replacement for stock filter, then went to ebay 'no name' 3" diameter short ram with a Blitz SuS filter:-Throttle response was vastly improved as well as induction roar. Then i changed to ebay 'no name' CAI with K&N filter and throttle response is crap, induction roar is muted, but top end power does seem improved.

Both ebay items (CAI and short ram) were perfect fitment items, but the filters provided were ditched in favour of known quality ones. I will never buy AEM/Injen/Iceman as you just pay for a name, buy a cheap ebay one, ditch the filter and buy a K&N one and you'll have an every bit as good intake as AEM/ICEMAN etc!

 

thanks alot for all the info.!!!!!!

 

I was just wondering? whats so bad about the front mount intakes??? just a question??

but to 1BaDC2, i think all intake are the same, just need a good filter, CAI and short ram as well, other then that its just a shiny pipe,

 

Its All *Bling**Bling* any way you look at it.

 

probably the only difference (if any) is the weight.

 

CAI Intakes Exposed

CAI is poo poo. Here is the facts, mixed with some personal opinion, do with this info what you will.

A CAI intake sucks air from your wheel well...this air because it goes up under the car, and swirls violently...becomes turbelant air. This air doesnt flow properly and is not being used as efficiently as other types of induction. Example .. when your on a airplane, and they say we are experiencing turbelance...the air is rough, and not moving along smoothly...hence the plane shaking, turbelant air isnt really "useful" air. Not to mention that CAI pipes are either aluminum or plastic, and serve as air ovens, they get hot with the engine bay, and just heat up the air as it reaches the IM. So...your air is not only turbelant, but now its hot again, CAI is a noise maker that sells cuzz the theory is good.

IF you feel the need for a intake, run a short ram, better yet a shrouded short ram. My personal opinion is a stock airbox, with a high pass filter. As noted earlier, japanese tuners rarely use intakes xcept on high horse apps, most circuit and d1 honda's run a stock box with a high pass filter, honda designed their box well...they arent dumbies, their engines are very efficient from teh factory.

 

Huh?

After driving around I've popped my hood and felt the CAI pipe, and it's nowhere near hot. I don't even think it's warm. I have an AEM by the way.

 

The pipe itself wont get hot ... take a thermo probe, and put it in the rubber tubing of your intake ... you'll see its within a few degree's of the air on a short ram....Ive done it, its not a farse, CAI is a gimmick...it sounds "cool" so people mindfuck themselves into thinkng they "feel a gain"

 

Intake pipes don't get that hot. Not even warm to the touch. Why do cai's consistently dyno more power? I'd much rather have somewhat turbulent COLD air than non-turbulent hot air. Do you have anything to back up your claim that the air is more turbulent than in a short ram?

The aem hump is a small power increase (1-3hp) in the middle of the powerband for the person who asked.

 

Yeah. What about THAT.

 

i'd say that turbulent air is better for air/fuel to mix. and why not try and get the most power you can. every little bit helps with hondas. i'm not so sure that you actually get colder air into the motor with a CAI over the short ram, but i do think that the length of the pipe matters. i feel more power on the bottom end with my CAI. i have both short and CAI. and the CAI pulls harder. i've also have tried it with and without the bypass valve. the bypass valve sucks. ruins the sound of the intake and feels slower. i've heard from a dyno tuner that people think that the short rams are better for top end but from his experience tuning cars all day, he said that its not true. CAI makes more power on the dyno and it might make more power on the road where you have cool air blowing past the filter. so from my experience i would got with a CAI.

 

I disagree, angles can affect the delivery, velocity and pressure of incoming air... just any ole mandrel bent pipe can make a minute difference... but it's a difference.

Most of those 'cheap' ebay intakes come in chrome... watch out.. the chrome ones retain under hood heat more than others. But I agree with the K&N reference... the quality of the filter has ALOT to do with intake performance.

FMIC's or Interfoolers require drastic bends for the air to take to get to the piping, not to mention the high pressure zone that forms in front of them under certain engine needs. (Air starvation)

Ummm... the point of a CAI is to provide Colder Air, NOT more uniform flow. It is a fact that most CAI systems do not flow as well as simple under hood intakes or EVEN stock intakes for that matter. The reason they make power is that they allow cooler air (more dense) to flow into the motor, increasing Hp and Tq. They are NOT, as you so eloquently put it...'poo poo'.

How much heat do you think the air picks up as it travels it's route thru the pipe for less than a second ? Again,

It also depends on the temp outside... but CAI does produce power... people just pretend it doesn't because they rarely post up more Hp #'s than 'in engine' intakes on a dyno. Why ? Because dyno's are run with 1) Open hoods and 2) Big fans running on the car The result is the REAL gimmick... In engine intakes post drastic gains in Hp, similar to CAI's, but in the REAL WORLD, your under hood temps rob most of the Hp you saw on the dyno as the in engine intake draws in hot air once the hood is closed (The way most of us drive in the real world) Whereas CAI's continually draw cooler air from under the fenderwall or bumper. If you still refuse to believe this, so be it...ignorance is bliss...lol

Damn, I guess people with fully built all motor setups that still use I/H/E are just in the 'bolt-on' stage, eh ? Remember, a turbo kit is just a bolt on too... maybe an intercooler is just a big radiator.

BTW, all short rams flow higher #'s than CAI's but NEVER produce as much power as the cooler air overcomes the CAI's lack of flow. That 'air turbulence' thing sounds like a layperson's theory.

I have use an AEM in the past and will use them in the future, their design is computer created and dyno proven, their CAIs are powder coated for less heatsoak and VERY well designed. As for people that go all motor, EVERY HP or TQ point counts, otherwise we'd all just stay stock rather than get suck *** single digit Hp gains that most bolt on's provide.

X2 (I type alot with my middle finger)