AznJohn33

Ok, I did search and found some unclear info.

Don't teach me what each of the models are, i aleady know dc2 is gsr, type R and DC4 are all the trims under (RS, LS, GS/SE).

All for the coupe/hatchback version of course.

Question is, since when does a different engine give a car a different chassis? I know suspension-wise the Type R is completely different from the rest of the integras, so if anything it seems like the type R would have its own code. To my knowledge, the GSR is exactly the same as an LS except for the engine/tranny and the factory bar under the hood, right?

Can someone clarify? Does the GSR really have something different about its structure from the LS?

dc2drifterx

Thicker sway bars, no third brake light, spoiler comes stock, different wheels, stick only (untill 99) are some of the differences.

hollis

front strut bar, dohc vtec badge

AznJohn33

Most of what you guys mentioned are basicaly cosmetic differences, except for the thicker sway bar and the front strut bar. So those two suspension differences qualify as putting the gsr into a completely separate chassis code? o_O.

96dc2

No special differences between GS-R and LS chassis'. Swap a B18C1 into an LS and call it a GS-R, no big deal. No one won't flame you. Swap a B18C5 into a GS-R or LS and call it an ITR, yeah you'll get flamers. See what I mean? Funny thing is, though, the ITR has the same chassis code as a GS-R.

GS-Rdriven

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 96dc2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No special differences between GS-R and LS chassis'. Swap a B18C1 into an LS and call it a GS-R, no big deal. No one won't flame you. Swap a B18C5 into a GS-R or LS and call it an ITR, yeah you'll get flamers. See what I mean? Funny thing is, though, the ITR has the same chassis code as a GS-R.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i know right?

dc2drifterx

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 96dc2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No special differences between GS-R and LS chassis'. Swap a B18C1 into an LS and call it a GS-R, no big deal. No one won't flame you. Swap a B18C5 into a GS-R or LS and call it an ITR, yeah you'll get flamers. See what I mean? Funny thing is, though, the ITR has the same chassis code as a GS-R.</TD></TR></TABLE>

May be the same code, but the itr has quite a few differences.

BlackThorN

the itr has ALOT of differences from the gsr

you all need to do a little more reading

96dc2

I know that the ITR chassis is totally different than the GS-R chassis. I just find it funny that it also uses DC2 as the chassis code.

ILuvJDMITR

reviving this thread cuz i want to know the ddiff in the unibody in the dc2 gs-r and dc-2 Itr

B18Tahtaras

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ILuvJDMITR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">reviving this thread cuz i want to know the ddiff in the unibody in the dc2 gs-r and dc-2 Itr</TD></TR></TABLE>

The gsr unibody has alot of additional weight on the top because they had to provide added support due to the sunroof, not to mention add mounts for tracks motors etc.

basically speaking... the itr unibody is the same as the rs, except that it has a couple different features, the itr has no hatch release lever, nor a gas tank cap cover release lever.

And the ls, and gsr unibodies basically the same.

integraver

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlackThorN &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the itr has ALOT of differences from the gsr

you all need to do a little more reading</TD></TR></TABLE>
ohh yeah i 4got.. itr is the god on HONDA-TECH and the GSR is not..

and too bad i can smoke a stock type R with a very few mods.. mainly i/h/e lol thats the dfference..

GS-Rdriven

to my knowledge isn't every trim also different lenghtwise.........i think the dc4's are a bit longer i think, and the gs-r and itr might be a little wider i think ...not by like a foot but just enough, i mean honda/acura didn't just make a frame/chassis and drop different engines in it and call it day...............................agaain i'm not too sure about this

B18Tahtaras

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GS-Rdriven &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">to my knowledge isn't every trim also different lenghtwise.........i think the dc4's are a bit longer i think, and the gs-r and itr might be a little wider i think ...not by like a foot but just enough, i mean honda/acura didn't just make a frame/chassis and drop different engines in it and call it day...............................agaain i'm not too sure about this</TD></TR></TABLE>

you're right, they made two and added simple things to them. To make them all different, Manufacturing costs would be crazy if they actually had 4 different unibodies.

reno96teg

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GS-Rdriven &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think the dc4's are a bit longer i think, and the gs-r and itr might be a little wider i think ...not by like a foot but just enough</TD></TR></TABLE>
no.. exterior dimensions are identical. even on the ITR. hatch vs. hatch, sedan vs. sedan.<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i mean honda/acura didn't just make a frame/chassis and drop different engines in it and call it day...............................agaain i'm not too sure about this</TD></TR></TABLE>
yes, they basically did, minus the ITR, where they took the same frame, and added to it. the only structural differences from GS-R vs. RS/LS/GS/SE are the sways (and not counting the sunroof, of course).

B18Tahtaras

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by reno96teg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yes, they basically did, minus the ITR, where they took the same frame, and added to it. the only structural differences from GS-R vs. RS/LS/GS/SE are the sways (and not counting the sunroof, of course). </TD></TR></TABLE>

yep. There are only two different unibodies... with the itr they just, as mentioned, added to it... the added cross braces so that it would handle much better, by not flexing like a tin can.

and the cars with sunroofs had added weight and support up top

darrinbrewer

iTrader: (1)

it's the same deal with 4dr's

db7 -ls's..and db8 -gsr's ..my db8 is IDENTICAL to my freinds db7..other than the motor/tranny....he has gsr wheels(it's a SE) and it's got a wing..were my gsr is wingless 4dr's look like the sway bars are the same too..

RynoDyno312

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dc2drifterx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thicker sway bars, no third brake light, spoiler comes stock, different wheels, stick only (untill 99) are some of the differences.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have never seen an automatic GSR of any year in the United States.

Dogginator

The ITR and GSR DC2 chassis have quite a few differences. For example, the rear of the ITR has thicker metal in the frame rails and wheel wells. There are also two extra support bars in the rear of the ITR. Search in the ITR forum for specifics. This has been covered many times.

PatrickGSR94

iTrader: (1)

The swaybars are different only on the 94-97 models. After 98+, EVERYTHING on all non-R Integras is the same, except the engine, and the GS-R having the front shock tower brace.

BlackThorN

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PatrickGSR94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The swaybars are different only on the 94-97 models. After 98+, EVERYTHING on all non-R Integras is the same, except the engine, and the GS-R having the front shock tower brace.</TD></TR></TABLE>

but the type R still has a thicker rear sway, right?

-DKap-

umm... also if u havnt noticed no side moldin marks... the R has a line but it is like a little "stylish" thing

PatrickGSR94

iTrader: (1)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlackThorN &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

but the type R still has a thicker rear sway, right?
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Yeah, but after 98, all front swaybars were the same 24mm on ALL models.