p1ccoloz

are the dc4 chassis as stiff as dc2? just curious looking to pick up another integra to tinker around with, and i want the dc2 stiffness and rs weight. by the by how much does the rs weight?

jaM3s Bond

Well I dont know for sure

But without the sunroof on the RS it would be just as stiff if not stiffer.

I know when they add a factory sunroof that they add beams and bars here and there. So I would beileve the RS is just as stiff.

It could be even stiffer.

scrap1ngsr

whats a dc2 and dc4?

B2FiNiTY

iTrader: (2)

DC2 = GSR or Type R coupe
DC4 = RS/GS/SE/LS

xyooj

Is it? i thought dc4 was 4 door teg
NM..db=4dr


[Modified by xyooj, 2:27 AM 3/11/2003]

thrty8street

iTrader: (7)

get the DC4. they are great sleepers

mr_mbuna

But LS/SE/GS all came with sunroofs...

Ben

SMZ GSR

DC4 has nothing to do with sunroof
DC is for the 3rd gen integra and the 4 just signifies non-vtec

p1ccoloz

but as to my question, how's the chassis stiffness, handling etc in comparison to a dc2? And whats the weight of an RS?

tC_Dragon

both the gsr and type r are dc2 chassis but from my recollection, the chassis is different. The type r has thicker metal around the suspension components and more braces stock. I think there were a couple more minor differences as well but can't remember

94ls

Integra Yr. Trim Horsepower Torque Lbs. (m/a) Power to weight

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2000 Type-R 195 130 2595 0.07514
GSR 2dr 170 128 2672 0.06362
GSR 4dr 170 128 2764 0.061505
LS 2dr 140 119 2643/85 0.05297
LS 4dr 140 119 2703/45 0.051794
GS 4dr 140 119 2735/67 0.051188
GS 2dr 140 119 2639/81 0.05305

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1999 Type-R 195 130 2577 0.075669
GSR 2dr 170 128 2665 0.0637899
GSR 4dr 170 128 2764 0.0615
LS 2dr 140 125 2640/83 0.05303
LS 4dr 140 125 2703/42 0.051794
GS 4dr 140 125 2722/64 0.0514
GS 2dr 140 125 2636/83 0.05311
RS 2dr 140 125 2526/68 0.0554

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1998 Type-R 195 130 2577 0.075669
GSR 2dr 170 128 2665 0.06379
GSR 4dr 170 128 2762 0.06159
LS 2dr 140 125 2640/83 0.05303
LS 4dr 140 125 2703/42 0.051794
GS 4dr 140 125 2722/64 0.051433
GS 2dr 140 125 2636/76 0.05311
RS 2dr 140 125 2526/68 0.05542

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1997 Type-R 195 130 2600 0.075
GSR 2dr 170 128 2667 0.063742
GSR 4dr 170 128 2764 0.061505
LS 2dr 140 125 2643/85 0.05297
LS 4dr 140 125 2703/42 0.051794
GS 4dr 140 125 2722/64 0.05143277
GS 2dr 140 125 2636/80 0.053110773
RS 2dr 140 125 2529/70 0.055357848

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1996 GSR 2dr 170 128 2667 0.063742032
GSR 4dr 170 128 2765 0.06148282
SE 2dr 142 127 2643/85 0.053726825
SE 4dr 142 127 2703/80 0.052534221
LS 2dr 142 127 2643/85 0.053726825
LS 4dr 142 127 2703/80 0.052534221
RS 2dr 142 127 2529/70 0.056148675
RS 4dr 142 127 2670/28 0.05318352

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1995 GSR 2dr 170 128 2667 0.063742032
GSR 4dr 170 128 2765 0.06148282
SE 2dr 142 127 2643/85 0.053726825
SE 4dr 142 127 2703/80 0.052534221
LS 2dr 142 127 2643/85 0.053726825
LS 4dr 142 127 2738/80 0.051862673
RS 2dr 142 127 2529/70 0.056148675
RS 4dr 142 127 2628/70 0.054033485

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1994 GSR 2dr 170 128 2667 0.063742032
GSR 4dr 170 128 2765 0.06148282
SE 2dr 142 127 2643/85 0.053726825
SE 4dr 142 127 2703/80 0.052534221
LS 2dr 142 127 2643/85 0.053726825
LS 4dr 142 127 2703/45 0.052534221
RS 2dr 142 127 2529/70 0.056148675
RS 4dr 142 127 2628/70 0.054033483

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1993 GSR 2dr 160 117 2657 0.060218291
GS 2 dr 140 125 2643/701 0.051794302
GS 4dr 140 125 2703/60 0.051794302
LS 2dr 140 125 2619/81 0.053455517
LS 4dr 140 125 2643/701 0.052970109
RS 2dr 140 125 2557/615 0.054751662
RS 4dr 140 125 2608/65 0.053680981

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1992 GSR 2dr 160 117 2643 0.060537268
GS 2 dr 140 125 2643/701 0.051794302
GS 4dr 140 125 2703/2760 0.051794302
LS 2dr 140 125 2623/81 0.053373999
LS 4dr 140 125 2643/701 0.052970109
RS 2dr 140 125 2557/2615 0.054751662
RS 4dr 140 125 2608/65 0.053680981

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1991 GS 2 dr 130 121 2654 0.048982667
GS 4dr 130 121 2714 0.047899778
LS 2dr 130 121 2619 0.049637266
LS 4dr 130 121 2641 0.049223778
RS 2dr 130 121 2560 0.05078125
RS 4dr 130 121 2606 0.049884881

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1990 GS 2 dr 130 121 2628 0.049467275
GS 4dr 130 121 2650 0.049056603
LS 2dr 130 121 2590 0.05019305
LS 4dr 130 121 2630 0.049429657
RS 2dr 130 121 2544 0.051100628
RS 4dr 130 121 2579 0.050407134

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1989 LS 2dr 118 103 N/A N/A
LS 4dr 118 103 N/A N/A
RS 2dr 118 103 N/A N/A
RS 4dr 118 103 N/A N/A

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1988 LS 2dr 118 103 2355 0.050106157
LS 4dr 118 103 2396 0.049248747
RS 2dr 118 103 2313 0.051015996
RS 4dr 118 103 2390 0.049372384
SE 2dr 118 103 2355 0.050106157

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reno96teg

nice batch of info, 94ls.

anywho, the GS-R shares the same exact chassis w/ the RS/LS/GS/SE, with a few minor differences.. the strut tower bar, and slightly thicker swaybars.

i can't remember the exact details, but i think up until 98 or so, the non VTEC had a 22.1 mm front swaybar, where as the GS-R had a 24mm. the rear was 12.1mm on the non VTEC, 14mm on the GS-R. don't quote me tho, this is off the top of my head.

as far as everything else (chassis-wise).. it's the same exact thing; except that no sunroof = lighter, stiffer body. why do you think they left it out of the Type R?

94ls

close on those stats reno:

For all 2 door models:

rs/ls/gs/se gs-r type r

front stabilizer 22mm(94-99) 24mm 24mm
24mm(00-01)

rear stabilizer 13mm 14mm 22mm