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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 05:46 PM
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I have a 95 LS and my CEL keeps coming on and off and my car bogs out but only when its cold once it warms up it runs fine and my CEL only goes if im on long trips and not when being driven in the city, it goes off as soon as you shut the car off and wont go back on for a couple of days, please help.
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 08:39 AM
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 08:44 AM
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check the egr valve...
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 09:00 AM
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egr valve....haha, what is the cel on for
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 09:04 AM
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well that would be the only explanation for the delayed cel... I had the same issue in a prelude si I replaced the egr and no more check engine light

edit: My bad also called the purge valve in the later model cars

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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 09:06 AM
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other than tha go to a shop and have them plug in there obd1 code reader then search google for a list of codes...
the only way to truely know why it is on is to check the codes...
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 10:54 PM
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Sorry for not responding quickly, had problems with my dns connection and i took my car to a shop but they were goin to charge me 100 bucks for the obd test so im just gonna do the paper clip test that i herad about, something about your cel flashing long and short need to read up on it, any info would would be greatful, thanks
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 07:10 AM
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Does it flash or turn on and stay on then shut off?
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 07:17 AM
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try jumping it when its on. it could be loose wire
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 11:45 AM
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Does it flash or turn on and stay on then shut off?
no it doesnt flash, just turns on and then goes off as soon as you turn of the car.
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 11:46 AM
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try jumping it when its on. it could be loose wire
tryed it nothing happened
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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 06:00 AM
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drive it until it comes on (i always carry a small piece of wire in center console), when the light comes on, pull over and check it before shutting the car off.
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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 06:07 AM
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self obd1 test:

under the glove box above kick pannel are two connectors in a little rubber thing that holds them there, pull the one with 2 wires out, take a small paperclip, or wire and connect the wire to the two pin slots (this will jump it) turn the ignition to 2 spot so all accessories are on, youre cel will begin blinking. a long blink is 10 a short blink is 1.
example: two long blinks, one short = 10+10+1= 21.

EDIT: you can do this while engine is running, without cutting the car off

Code 0 and 11 Electronic Control Module (ECM)
Code1 Heated oxygen sensor A
Code 2 Oxygen content B
Code 3 and 5 Manifold Absolute Pressure
Code 4 Crank position sensor
Code 6 Engine coolant temperature
Code 7 Throttle position sensor
Code 8 Top dead center sensor
Code 9 No.1 cylinder position sensor
Code 10 Intake air temperature sensor
Code 12 Exhaust recirculation system
Code 13 Barometric pressure sensor
Code 14 Idle air control valve or bad ECM
Code 15 Ignition output signal
Code 16 Fuel Injector
Code 17 Vehicle speed sensor
Code 19 A/T lock-up control solenoid
Code 20 Electric load detector
Code 21 V-TEC control solenoid
Code 22 V-TEC pressure solenoid
Code 23 Knock sensor
Code 30 A/T FI signal A
Code 30 A/T FI signal B
Code 41 Heated oxygen sensor heater
Code 43 Fuel supply system
Code 45 Fuel supply metering
Code 48 Heated oxygen sensor
Code 61 Front heated oxygen sensor
Code 63 Rear heated oxygen sensor
Code 65 Rear heated oxygen sensor heater
Code 67 Catalytic converter system
Code 70 Automatic transaxle
Code 71 Misfire detected cylinder 1
Code 72 Misfire detected cylinder 2
Code 73 Misfire detected cylinder 3
Code 74 Misfire detected cylinder 4
Code 75 Misfire detected cylinder 5
Code 76 Misfire detected cylinder 6
Code 80 Exhaust recirculation system
Code 86 Coolant temperature
Code 92 Evaporative emission control system

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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 11:57 AM
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thanks, great help gonna go try this but will it work cuz it takes a while for the cel to come on. And will the test work with out it on, thanks
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 04:13 PM
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or just take it to autozone or kragen whatever its called in CA, i believe they do it for free if you dont know how to do it
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by phatdroid06
thanks, great help gonna go try this but will it work cuz it takes a while for the cel to come on. And will the test work with out it on, thanks
it will work with key on engine off if thats what your asking.. It should store the code even when the light is off.
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 04:05 PM
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autozone and kragen has stoped with the obd tester and renting out as well aslo my ? was will the test work with the engine on.
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 04:52 PM
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Default Re: CEL on & off HELP!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by whitengolddc2
self obd1 test:

under the glove box above kick pannel are two connectors in a little rubber thing that holds them there, pull the one with 2 wires out, take a small paperclip, or wire and connect the wire to the two pin slots (this will jump it) turn the ignition to 2 spot so all accessories are on, youre cel will begin blinking. a long blink is 10 a short blink is 1.
example: two long blinks, one short = 10+10+1= 21.

EDIT: you can do this while engine is running, without cutting the car off

Code 0 and 11 Electronic Control Module (ECM)
Code1 Heated oxygen sensor A
Code 2 Oxygen content B
Code 3 and 5 Manifold Absolute Pressure
Code 4 Crank position sensor
Code 6 Engine coolant temperature
Code 7 Throttle position sensor
Code 8 Top dead center sensor
Code 9 No.1 cylinder position sensor
Code 10 Intake air temperature sensor
Code 12 Exhaust recirculation system
Code 13 Barometric pressure sensor
Code 14 Idle air control valve or bad ECM
Code 15 Ignition output signal
Code 16 Fuel Injector
Code 17 Vehicle speed sensor
Code 19 A/T lock-up control solenoid
Code 20 Electric load detector
Code 21 V-TEC control solenoid
Code 22 V-TEC pressure solenoid
Code 23 Knock sensor
Code 30 A/T FI signal A
Code 30 A/T FI signal B
Code 41 Heated oxygen sensor heater
Code 43 Fuel supply system
Code 45 Fuel supply metering
Code 48 Heated oxygen sensor
Code 61 Front heated oxygen sensor
Code 63 Rear heated oxygen sensor
Code 65 Rear heated oxygen sensor heater
Code 67 Catalytic converter system
Code 70 Automatic transaxle
Code 71 Misfire detected cylinder 1
Code 72 Misfire detected cylinder 2
Code 73 Misfire detected cylinder 3
Code 74 Misfire detected cylinder 4
Code 75 Misfire detected cylinder 5
Code 76 Misfire detected cylinder 6
Code 80 Exhaust recirculation system
Code 86 Coolant temperature
Code 92 Evaporative emission control system
OP take the time to read slowly...
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Old Apr 15, 2009 | 07:02 AM
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use a paperclip to jump your ecu. and yes it will work with the car on.
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Old Apr 16, 2009 | 08:26 PM
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tryied the paper clip thing but nothing happened and now my cars CEL hasnt come back on and it no longer bogs out or anything. Is this good or bad, is it possible for the problem to correct itself or should i be expecting something worse than just my engine boggin out?
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