i have a 99 ls w/ ebay intake i want crower cams what websites do u guys suggest and besides cams what do i need to get to use the crowers some kinda harness?? links help

 

crower 403. crower make good cams for stock ls

 

obd2 to obd1 conversion harness....look on ebay they are all over the place...then get you an obd1 ecu

 

I believe the cams only require for you to change your valve springs and crap, you dont have to get a harness, you can go to http://www.crower.com for cams, they are great, can someone verify that you need the valvesprings FORSURE, or can you just slap on the cams and you are set?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4drlsintegra &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I believe the cams only require for you to change your valve springs and crap, you dont have to get a harness, you can go to http://www.crower.com for cams, they are great, can someone verify that you need the valvesprings FORSURE, or can you just slap on the cams and you are set?</TD></TR></TABLE>

no harness eh?? so how you going to effectively/effeciently tune those cams you just installed?

 

you have to change the harness too? I never knew that, I thought you just tune your ecu or something

 

You need valve springs if you plan to raise your RPM above the stock limiter, which is what these cams were designed for. If you don't raise the RPM, then your stock springs will work.

 

http://www.crower.com

http://www.jhpusa.com

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4drlsintegra &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you have to change the harness too? I never knew that, I thought you just tune your ecu or something</TD></TR></TABLE>

obd2 ecu's cannot be socketed and chipped to accept a tune made from a rom editor

 

oh, lol, I thought he had a obd1, Because mine is a obd1 so I dont have to change harness, but can I judt put the crower 403s on and dont change nothing else except tune it? Like not puttin on valve springs and crap is okay?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4drlsintegra &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oh, lol, I thought he had a obd1, Because mine is a obd1 so I dont have to change harness, but can I judt put the crower 403s on and dont change nothing else except tune it? Like not puttin on valve springs and crap is okay?</TD></TR></TABLE>

some would say they are ok if you keep the stock redline...but I know for a fact (not speculation) that if a cam profile is aggressive enough on any stock spring it will cause the springs to bind...even if youre only still going to the stock redline

 

you also have to worry about your springs being able to "pop" fast enough to open and close the valves and possibly floating a valve. Just get valvetrain so you are safe rather than sorry

 

u dont HAVE to change harness. you dont HAVE to change valvetrain. you dont HAVE to tune it. to put the cams in there and them work all u physically HAVE to do is swap cams. the rest is just recommended. and whos to say he couldnt stay obd2 and use vafc? also, the OP never specified what crower cams it was he was lookin for so he mioght not even have to change valvetrain.

to the OP, what cams exactly were u talking about? or were u wanting us to suggest some cams to u? if so, honestly i wouldnt recommend going all-motor ls non vtec in a DC chassis. the chassis is to heavy and u wont make enough power (at least not for my liking). i would recommend save money for ls/vtec if u wanna go all-motor.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4drlsintegra &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I believe the cams only require for you to change your valve springs and crap, you dont have to get a harness, you can go to http://www.crower.com for cams, they are great, can someone verify that you need the valvesprings FORSURE, or can you just slap on the cams and you are set?</TD></TR></TABLE>

like stated above, it depends on which cams.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tim2179 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You need valve springs if you plan to raise your RPM above the stock limiter, which is what these cams were designed for. If you don't raise the RPM, then your stock springs will work.</TD></TR></TABLE>

u dont need valvesprings to raise the revlimit. aftermarket valvesprings are just so u can safely rev above stock revlimit, but it is noit required to raise the rev limit.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondacuraLs &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have a 99 ls w/ ebay intake i want crower cams what websites do u guys suggest and besides cams what do i need to get to use the crowers some kinda harness?? links help </TD></TR></TABLE>

not trying to be an *** but it wouldnt hurt if u did a lil research.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b20powereDA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> whos to say he couldnt stay obd2 and use vafc?
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nobody said he couldnt, but cams are modifications that are VERY picky concerning ignition timing AND fuel to get power. And using piggy back system prevents you from effectively getting power out of them since the ignition is preset if you richen or lean out the mixture. Because they aren't independent of each other, consider your tune just as good as a basemap best guess...

 

so what exactly do i need

1.cams

2.?

3?

and what exactly is tune its all i hear and i dont know exactly what it is or wherei can get it i know its a noob statement

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lVlemphizStylez &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

nobody said he couldnt, but cams are modifications that are VERY picky concerning ignition timing AND fuel to get power. And using piggy back system prevents you from effectively getting power out of them since the ignition is preset if you richen or lean out the mixture. Because they aren't independent of each other, consider your tune just as good as a basemap best guess...</TD></TR></TABLE>

yes i know that but, i was jus throwing something out there. trust me, i know hed be better off going obd1 and tunning on something like hondata, crome, uberdata, etc. but he doesnt necessarily HAVE to.


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondacuraLs &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so what exactly do i need

1.cams

2.?

3?

and what exactly is tune its all i hear and i dont know exactly what it is or wherei can get it i know its a noob statement</TD></TR></TABLE>

aight, like i stated before, all that u absolutely need is cams. but, if want it run good and make the most power, its gonna cost u some money. but this is what i would recommed

1. cams

2. valvesprings & retainers

3. obd2-obd1 harness

4. obd1 ecu

5. ecu chipped to run crome

6. take it to a tuner that is knowledgeable with crome and have him tune it

 

If you are going to have cams installed, why not get the rest of the stuff done at the same time? They are going to have to take it apart anyways, might as well save yourself money in labor.