camber kit or alignment?
i have some cheap coilover on my car right now. i paired them up with kyb agx shocks. i got like a 2 finger gap in the front and rear. do i need a camber kit or just get an alignment? what setting should set the shocks at? my car is dd and i have them set at 2.
Depends on how bad the camber is. Some are worse then others. Everyone on here say that you dont need them, but when I did all my suspension I didnt install the f&r camber kits also I bought. Lowered it off the lift and the back was over -10* in the rear and around -7* in the front. The back was pretty much ridin on the side wall, so I had to install them or it looked expletivly retarded. Post some pics of how it sits and then you will get better advice.
Have your alignment checked first. It's possible (if unlikely) that you won't need any adjustment to camber after lowering. I have a -1.6 degree camber reading in the front of my 'teg and it's not feathering at all. You really want to make sure that your toe is in- it can melt tire away very fast. Camber kits can be very costly if you don't know somebody in the business.
i have an old alignment i did a couple of months ago.
before alignment
front camber 0.1
front toe -0.20
rear camber 0.0
rear toe -0.35
after alignment
front camber 0.1
front toe 0.10
rear camber 0.0
rear toe 0.10
before alignment
front camber 0.1
front toe -0.20
rear camber 0.0
rear toe -0.35
after alignment
front camber 0.1
front toe 0.10
rear camber 0.0
rear toe 0.10
They are not that exspensive. Just put the coilovers on then lower the car down and see how it looks. I dont think that the alignment shop can adjust the camber unless you have a kit. So what you see when you lower it is what you get after the alignment shop minus the toe and caster.
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This has been covered a million times. If you are having camber problems from newly installed suspension, go get an alignment before you go posting on Honda-Tech 
Modified by .PLUMMM at 12:36 PM 2/16/2008

Modified by .PLUMMM at 12:36 PM 2/16/2008
I researched about this before. and Camber isn't what you have to worry about. It's the toe.
" " - or + a couple words.
"You can have a -10 camber and it still wouldn't ware down your tires nowhere near as fast/bad than having your toe out of specification would"
" " - or + a couple words.
"You can have a -10 camber and it still wouldn't ware down your tires nowhere near as fast/bad than having your toe out of specification would"
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by team714 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have an old alignment i did a couple of months ago.
before alignment
front camber 0.1
front toe -0.20
rear camber 0.0
rear toe -0.35
after alignment
front camber 0.1
front toe 0.10
rear camber 0.0
rear toe 0.10</TD></TR></TABLE>
I don't know how they adjusted your camber a few months ago without a camber kit. I was pretty sure that there was no stock camber adjustment on an integra.
before alignment
front camber 0.1
front toe -0.20
rear camber 0.0
rear toe -0.35
after alignment
front camber 0.1
front toe 0.10
rear camber 0.0
rear toe 0.10</TD></TR></TABLE>
I don't know how they adjusted your camber a few months ago without a camber kit. I was pretty sure that there was no stock camber adjustment on an integra.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by team714 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have an old alignment i did a couple of months ago.
before alignment
front camber 0.1
front toe -0.20
rear camber 0.0
rear toe -0.35
after alignment
front camber 0.1
front toe 0.10
rear camber 0.0
rear toe 0.10</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SleeperGSR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I don't know how they adjusted your camber a few months ago without a camber kit. I was pretty sure that there was no stock camber adjustment on an integra.</TD></TR></TABLE>
--- According to that, they didn't adjust the camber. Or am i reading wrong?
before alignment
front camber 0.1
front toe -0.20
rear camber 0.0
rear toe -0.35
after alignment
front camber 0.1
front toe 0.10
rear camber 0.0
rear toe 0.10</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SleeperGSR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I don't know how they adjusted your camber a few months ago without a camber kit. I was pretty sure that there was no stock camber adjustment on an integra.</TD></TR></TABLE>
--- According to that, they didn't adjust the camber. Or am i reading wrong?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mfoehrkolb »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
--- According to that, they didn't adjust the camber. Or am i reading wrong?
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--- According to that, they didn't adjust the camber. Or am i reading wrong?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by japanjay »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">They are not that exspensive. Just put the coilovers on then lower the car down and see how it looks. I dont think that the alignment shop can adjust the camber unless you have a kit. So what you see when you lower it is what you get after the alignment shop minus the toe and caster.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I don't know what kits you're thinking of that aren't potentially expensive. When you get into parts and labor, and then performing a 4 wheel alignment, that's a chunk of change to me. No change should occur with your caster reading with a lowering kit. The only adjustment available without aftermarket addition is toe.
I don't know what kits you're thinking of that aren't potentially expensive. When you get into parts and labor, and then performing a 4 wheel alignment, that's a chunk of change to me. No change should occur with your caster reading with a lowering kit. The only adjustment available without aftermarket addition is toe.
You should get an alignment after lowering the car regardless of how it looks --
when I first lowered my car w/ H&R Sports and AGX and put on camer kit.. my alignment was way off and drove like that for 2weeks until my mesh became slicks.. lol than got new rims on and an alignment, than month later I swap springs for Prokit , had that for a 3weeks, alignment was still perfect.. than I put in Koni w/ top hats and GC and my alignment was all wack again.. haha
I would just get the limetime alignment at a place, should be only like $150 or something like that, it's well worth it.
when I first lowered my car w/ H&R Sports and AGX and put on camer kit.. my alignment was way off and drove like that for 2weeks until my mesh became slicks.. lol than got new rims on and an alignment, than month later I swap springs for Prokit , had that for a 3weeks, alignment was still perfect.. than I put in Koni w/ top hats and GC and my alignment was all wack again.. haha
I would just get the limetime alignment at a place, should be only like $150 or something like that, it's well worth it.
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