What is a good Camber Kit For Integra's and if you know and have any post some pics and let me know some prices.

 

There must be 1 or 2 camber kit threads posted on the forum every day.

And I always say the same thing, chances are you probably don't need a camber kit.

 

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hammer on me? hahaha really, with a good alignment most of the time a camber kit is not necessary. I'm sitting at a 3" drop and -2.5 camber with no kit and have 32K miles on my tires, and the tire is currently worn to the wear bars all the way across. You can easily go without a camber kit with a 1.5" to 2" drop, just make sure the toe is set exactly and rotate the tires every 3K-5K miles.

The big businesses have brainwashed most people into thinking that a camber kit is a MUST for ANY drop on a car. It's a bunch of marketing BS really. Camber kits are overrated unless you need to dial in an exact camber setting for track purposes, etc.

 

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hammer on me? hahaha really, with a good alignment most of the time a camber kit is not necessary. I'm sitting at a 3" drop and -2.5 camber with no kit and have 32K miles on my tires, and the tire is currently worn to the wear bars all the way across. You can easily go without a camber kit with a 1.5" to 2" drop, just make sure the toe is set exactly and rotate the tires every 3K-5K miles.

The big businesses have brainwashed most people into thinking that a camber kit is a MUST for ANY drop on a car. It's a bunch of marketing BS really. Camber kits are overrated unless you need to dial in an exact camber setting for track purposes, etc.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'll second this. In fact, without the kit, my rear aligned fine. 2.5" drop. Only my front is slightly off post alignment, and I have not had any adverse tire wear. No issues at all.

Camber kits are a waste of money for most people.

-D

 

I agree. I've never had a camber kit on any of my Integra's and they've all been dropped more than 2 inches. Just get a proper alignment and rotate the tires. It's up to you to see that your tires don't wear abnormally, not the camber kit.

 

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The big businesses have brainwashed most people into thinking that a camber kit is a MUST for ANY drop on a car. It's a bunch of marketing BS really. Camber kits are overrated unless you need to dial in an exact camber setting for track purposes, etc.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i haven't seen any advertisements from big businesses about camber kits, yet i know there effects.

it's logic man. if you have tires that are angled inward, like / and \ then the inside of the tire will wear quicker, because there's more pressure from the weight of the car being exerted on the inside. even a slight (-2 degrees) inward angle will make your tires wear faster. if you don't have a camer kit on either the front or the back...then rotating your tires isn't going to do anything. (unless swap the tires (not the rims) between sides...which after 2 times, will cost more money than a camber kit)


if you're going to do something - do it right.

 

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i haven't seen any advertisements from big businesses about camber kits, yet i know there effects.

it's logic man. if you have tires that are angled inward, like / and \ then the inside of the tire will wear quicker, because there's more pressure from the weight of the car being exerted on the inside. even a slight (-2 degrees) inward angle will make your tires wear faster. if you don't have a camer kit on either the front or the back...then rotating your tires isn't going to do anything. (unless swap the tires (not the rims) between sides...which after 2 times, will cost more money than a camber kit)


if you're going to do something - do it right.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You haven't seen any advertisements? How about all those places that won't align your car without a camber kit, and then offer you some overpriced piece that they can install for you? Les Schwab for example, will deem your car un-safe to drive, and won't let you leave without buying a camber kit.

Of course your tires will wear unevenly from any negative camber, but it will be minimal if your toe is straight. I do a lot of highway (ie, straight line) driving, and I've got -3 deg of camber up front and have had very minor camber wear. I've been on the same tires (which were used and abused when I got the car) since last July, 15k miles ago. I also do some drag racing on these tires.

Get an alignment if you're concerned about tire wear. Get a camber kit if you need the precision for track purposes.

 

...get a camber kit if it didnt matter then acura would give you the car w/ - camber

 

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You haven't seen any advertisements? How about all those places that won't align your car without a camber kit, and then offer you some overpriced piece that they can install for you? Les Schwab for example, will deem your car un-safe to drive, and won't let you leave without buying a camber kit. </TD></TR></TABLE>

that's why you buy the camber kit and install it yourself....so that you don't get ripped off by mechanics. also...most places won't align for you because you're dropped 3 inches....and their machines aren't capable of reaching the tow/caster/camber (kit if you have one) because the angles aren't possible when a car is that low.

you must have some dense-rubber-tires.

also...if your letting les schwab impound your car...then shame on you. call the police and have them arrested for GTA (assuming you didn't sign any forms that would allow them to impound it). because having 3 degrees of negative camber isn't unsafe (actually it's probably more-safe, when it comes to cornering), and there's no laws against it....but it will just wear your tires out extra fast.

 

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that's why you buy the camber kit and install it yourself....so that you don't get ripped off by mechanics. also...most places won't align for you because you're dropped 3 inches....and their machines aren't capable of reaching the tow/caster/camber (kit if you have one) because the angles aren't possible when a car is that low.
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From my experience with finding a place to align my car (at this point I was getting it aligned, then keeping close watch on my tires to see if I needed a kit), I could fit on the rack without a problem, but several places gave me the run-around about getting a camber kit and didn't seem to know what they were talking about.

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I'm not sure of the specs on my tires. They're Advan A460's and have performed decently so far.

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also...if your letting les schwab impound your car...then shame on you. call the police and have them arrested for GTA (assuming you didn't sign any forms that would allow them to impound it). because having 3 degrees of negative camber isn't unsafe (actually it's probably more-safe, when it comes to cornering), and there's no laws against it....but it will just wear your tires out extra fast.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I never said I was doing that, and I do know that they aren't allowed to do that, but not everyone does, and people end up getting robbed by them. A friend of mine went there and ended up spending over 1G because of all the stuff they told him he "needed" to have.

 

you need smarter friends.

 

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i haven't seen any advertisements from big businesses about camber kits, yet i know there effects.

it's logic man. if you have tires that are angled inward, like / and \ then the inside of the tire will wear quicker, because there's more pressure from the weight of the car being exerted on the inside. even a slight (-2 degrees) inward angle will make your tires wear faster. if you don't have a camer kit on either the front or the back...then rotating your tires isn't going to do anything. (unless swap the tires (not the rims) between sides...which after 2 times, will cost more money than a camber kit)


if you're going to do something - do it right.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Both my current tires and my previous tires wore down to the wear bars in the MIDDLE and all the way across the tire tread right about the same time camber wear started showing up on the inside, so the tires had to be replaced anyway. Really, most people just need an alignment.

Do it right? I'm doing it just fine thanks. Squeeking, possibly slipping out of place, possibly hitting and denting fenderwells, and having to deal with getting people to set and adjust these aftermarket kits? No thank you I'll keep my stock parts please and have no worries of excessive noise, parts slipping or hitting anything, etc.

 

patrick should do a write up on why you DONT need a camber kit.... Sounds like some bullshit to me. Every Honda I see around town needs a damn kit wether its droped 1.5' or 4'. IMO you lower a car; you put a camber kit on it. Simple.

 

With a moderate drop a camber kit is not required, although it is reccomended if you want to lose some cornering capabilities.

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Im not going to waste my time posting reasons why you dont need a camber kit. Just type "camber kit" in the search function and you will see the millions of right ups of which the theory is explained and beaten to death.

 

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the fact is if you get really bad tire wear, it's not because of negative camber, it's because of out-of-spec toe-in combined with negative camber. If your toe is aligned to stock specs you will get little to no abnormal tire wear, even with negative camber, as long as you rotate tires often.

 

I wonder if it has to do with the lazyness of a alignment shop? There is ONLY ONE shop in my area probably by about 30 miles that will do the alignment on a lowered honda. And they wont even mess with it unless you have a camber kit. Its horrible.

 

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That's an unfortunate circumstance (where in WA are you?), but it doesn't mean you NEED a camber kit.

 

Down around South Tacoma Way. Kimballs on Pac Highway was the only place I could have do it.

 

i just had mine done a week or so ago. called around a bunch of places...they all either wouldn't do it...or wanted an arm and a leg.

ended up being done by pepboys for $70.

 

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freaking ghey

My friend works as a tech at a big Chevy dealer, we go up there on the weekends and put my car up on the lift, and he'll zero out the toe as close as possible to factory specs. Last time we even did it w/ me sitting in the car to get it as perfect as possible.

The only thing is we have to take off my lower splash guard to give the lasers a clear path across, and my side skirts scrape the ramps but it's not too bad.

 

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hammer on me? hahaha really, with a good alignment most of the time a camber kit is not necessary. I'm sitting at a 3" drop and -2.5 camber with no kit and have 32K miles on my tires, and the tire is currently worn to the wear bars all the way across. You can easily go without a camber kit with a 1.5" to 2" drop, just make sure the toe is set exactly and rotate the tires every 3K-5K miles.

The big businesses have brainwashed most people into thinking that a camber kit is a MUST for ANY drop on a car. It's a bunch of marketing BS really. Camber kits are overrated unless you need to dial in an exact camber setting for track purposes, etc.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i'm with patrick. THE KEY IS WHEEL ALIGNMENT.