Im gunna lower my car on H&R sport springs soon. The drop is 1.75f/1.5r. I was gunna get a camber kit(probably ingalls). Do you guys think I need a camber kit right away and which degree setting should I buy?

 

you wont be needing a camber kit, unless your car is gonna be like that for a very long time those springs wont give you much of a camber

 

yeah i was thinking that too. pretty much anything over 2 will give a lot of camber huh? what do you guys think? im probably gunna get one anyway just to save my tires.

 

a camber kit would just be a waste of money IMO. just get an alignment and you'll be set.

 

how much is alignment? i would need to correct toe for my alignment right?

 

just get a camber kit it will save you money in the long run. I have an 95 gsr and lowered it with out setting the right camber and i drove it for 2 days and the tires had tons of wear.

 

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you sure it wasnt the toe that ruined it? because you can go without a camber kit, just rotate tires, they say, and tire wear will even out. HOWEVER make sure you get a TOE alignment

 

I have eibach sportlines (1.7" all around) and yes I do get negative camber. Although the wear isn't that bad compared to others with lower drops, it is still visible. Rotating tires doesn't necessary fix the problem but it does prolong your tires a little longer.

In my opinion, try out your suspension for a few months and see how the wear is. If you don't like it, get a camber kit. =]

 

Generally the lower your car is, the more camber wear it will have. I suggest that you put on the springs first, then drive it to an alignment shop and see how negative your camber is. If it's about 1 degree or less, that's not bad enough to need a camber kit. You should be able to tell if your car needs a camber kit bad when you see how much your tires butterfly in along with the severity of inner treadwear. Try it out and see. I agree that a camber kit will save your a lot of money in the long run from my personal experience. Hope that helps, good luck bro.

Cheers

 

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bullshit. I've already answered this question. Seriously. Search is your friend.

 

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while you are at the alignment shop, ask them what causes the excessive inside tire wear.

It ain't negative camber!

 

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Not generally, ALWAYS the lower the car the more negative camber you will have, at least on Honda and Acura cars w/ double-wishbone front suspension.

You can easily run close to -2 deg. camber and have little to no tire wear problems w/ a proper alignment and regular tire rotation.

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Just so you know, I have H&R Sport springs on my Integra. The drop is 3" and my front camber is -2.5. I will not install a camber kit, but I still got 15K miles before showing any nonticeable inside tire wear. Since I need these tires to last until May or later, I had to flip the tires around on the wheels to get a some more life out of them. It's not the best thing to do, but it'll be fine for a few more months.

*edit* also in case you're wondering, the springs have not sagged at all. My car has been this low since I first installed the suspension.

 

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why don't you just switch the sides? so each side of the tire gets wear on them?

 

mine is lowered 2.25 in(f) and 2.00 in(r) on h&r race springs + tokico illuminas and ive been driving around for about 2 months camber kitless. it has worn the inside a little faster but its hasn't been that big of a deal...you will be fine, imo, without a camber kit as long as you keep up with your tire rotation real well and get a 4-wheel alignment. which btw is about $50-$70.
hope this helps

 

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why don't you just switch the sides? so each side of the tire gets wear on them?</TD></TR></TABLE>

If I took the wheels off and swapped sides, the same inside edges of the tires would still be on the inside edge. I couldn't do that anyway because I have directional tires (AVS ES100's).

I dismounted each tire from each wheel, flipped the tire over, and remounted it. So actually the wheels did end up switching sides.

Imagine if each tire moved directly across (w/o changing direction), so that the previouosly inside face now faces outside, while the wheel it was on moved to the other side, so the wheel would end up flipped inside the tire.

 

thanks for the help everyone. anyone else?