what would b est engine to start out with, planning on getting into forced induction for sure..... b16 b18b or b18c?

 

anything you want.
b18b and b18c both respond pretty well to boost..
b18c of course will be more expensive, so whats your budget?

 

B18A/B you can pick up a good one for cheap and it can handle a little abuse. I say go with that motor and you'll push out some good numbers

 

im getting a new car b/c my last civic was totaled, ive been wanting to get into this sport for a while so figured what a better time than now. i cant decide if i should just find an integra prolly 95 with a b18b with less than 130k miles and build that up starting with all new valve components first then maybe even cracking open the block and and doing new rods and pistons but im not sure it seems like i would be able to get the car going faster with less money invested. i was considering getting a civic and doing an engine swap with a b16, but like i said it would take more money b4 i can start building up the engine.

 

if you get a car with 130k miles, I would definitely suggest rebuilding it before you boost it..
Build it with low compression forged pistons, along with forged rods and all the other goodies, and boost a high amount of boost.. that way you can put down a lot of power.

How much money ar eyou looking to spend?
Turbo'ing your car is a lot more expensive than it seems to be at first.
You need more than just the basic turbo kit..

 

yeah thats what i was saying build it up b4 boosting it. i am inexperienced but i do know some, and that turboing a car isnt cheap, not to mention its not a short transitions either, meaning many many things new to be updated/changed if i want to the car to last any time at all.

 

you would want to go with a b18a/b for boost they are better...or say more turbo friendly...lower compression

 

look around maybe u could just find a gsr or a 2000 si those would be good for a beginer just look for one with low mile keep ur eyes open

 

i'd say a b18a/b would be your best bet because the lower compression will allow for you to boost more, but if the engine like you said has 130000 miles on it I would suggest a rebuild before you boost it. A gsr/itr/b16 tranny would be a nice upgrade but with a stock ls redline you wont get that high of a top speed, but you'll get up to speed and through gears much faster, and with built internals you'll make up for that lose by being able to rev high then the stock ls of course. Another thing to consider when boosting is that it might be best to upgrade your clutch and a chipped ecu would do you well.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crispchris &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i'd say a b18a/b would be your best bet because the lower compression will allow for you to boost more, but if the engine like you said has 130000 miles on it I would suggest a rebuild before you boost it. A gsr/itr/b16 tranny would be a nice upgrade but with a stock ls redline you wont get that high of a top speed, but you'll get up to speed and through gears much faster, and with built internals you'll make up for that lose by being able to rev high then the stock ls of course. Another thing to consider when boosting is that it might be best to upgrade your clutch and a chipped ecu would do you well.</TD></TR></TABLE>

DO NOT listen to this guy at all.
he has NO idea what hes talking about.
Ls's are geared longer, so the top speed of the transmission isnt necessarily lower than a gsr or whatever.. Cruising at 5k rpm in 5th gear or whatever in a gsr tranny is going about 100 mphs... cruising at 100 mph would be far less than 5k rpm in a ls tranny.
The longer gears on the ls tranny cause it to accelerate slower, and get through the gears slower, since their shorter.
Just because the ls has lower compression doesnt mean that you can boost more, because the engine cant necessarily handle it...
Gsr's can be boosted to 300-350 whp with stock internals... ls's max at around 280 or so.
You will of course need to upgrade your clutch... and you will most likely need to convert to obd1 and chip the ecu, and get engine management.


If I were you, Id buy an older gsr, because their cheaper.. a 94 or 95 so its obd1 to make everything easy. Your upgraded injectors will plug right in, and your ecu as well. If you need anything else PM me and Ill do my best to help you.
If my post was confusing, I apologize, I just had so much to say..
Hope I helped.

 

I agree - The previous guys tranny statements are incorrect. The GSR and B16 Trannys are geared shorter then the LS. 80mph on the freeway is about 4-4200k in my GSR. It was less in my GS. Lots of people put LS 5th gears into gsr/b16 trannys for freeway crusing. The gsr/b16 go through gears faster then the LS

Anyway. If you get a motor do a leakdown test first. If you plan on going turbo you should look into new; Rings, Pistons, maybe rods (or shotpeen your stock ones), Bearings, ARP Head Studs, etc just for starters. It will save you alot of time and headache if you do it first the right time.

Now save money for fuel and tuning as well.

 

b18b is good. 8psi is enough but not too much

 

I've been told by a couple people that a b20 is actually a nice engine to turbo. I don't know though, Im not much into turbo. Just thought I'd throw that out there for consideration. Maybe some of the turbo guru's out there can comment on some of the pro's and cons of a b20

 

i think the sleeves are thinner on a b20. dont quote me on that

 

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yeah...theyre thinner.
You can boost a low amount of boost fine, but anything to get some good numbers, you're gonna want to sleeve it.

 

thanx

 

in my shoes, id specific. got 3k around? A beginner block, to me is a b20, gsr tranny, vtec head, must have custom pistons with the b20, labor.

b20 long block=700
gsr head=500
pistons=500
tranny=500
good labor/tune/install=1000

or drop all that and buy an ls long block. good and cheap. Ya can go vtec or you can go turbo with cause if you didnt know, ls longblocks are effing cheap. cheap being the key word.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boosted98acura &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think the sleeves are thinner on a b20. dont quote me on that</TD></TR></TABLE>
remember hearing something about thinner cylinder walls or something similar

 

D series yO!

 

all three b18's on stock internals are good for 300 whp...