b20vtec or h22a?
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b20vtec or h22a?
I have a 98 teg ls and I blew the motor last week so I need a new one but I like all motor so out of the b20 with the vtec head and say a JDM h22a witch would be better. Just looking for some opinions.Thanx guys.
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Re: b20vtec or h22a? (non-VTEC)
Well of course the b20 will fit in easier but thats not really what you should be concerned about.Thing about how much there is in aftermarket parts for b-series engines.Then think about how much there is for the h-series.If you dont know then search and youll see why i voted b20vtec.Even if the b20 was harder to install it wouldnt effect my decision.
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Re: b20vtec or h22a? (IntegraLova)
IMO
B20/VTEC
Pros:
-B20 VTEC will bolt right in, so you don't require aftermarket mounts.
-Once the motor is running right ? Great all motor potential with added torque of a 2.0 litre.
Cons:
-Unless you really know what your doing or don't have a lot of money/time? I wouldn't ..... putting a VTEC head on a non VTEC block and having it run properly <U>can be</U> trying on the patience, long and expensive. A lot of different variables can cause a slew of problems.
H22
Pros:
-Much better power and torque right off the bat.
-It's already VTEC
Cons:
-Kiss your A/C goodbye
-Need aftermarket mounts and a few other parts (axles, mid shaft, exhaust, shifter assembly) This does really add up.
-Need a good mechanic to install it, it's a tight fit and wiring is a bitch.
-Power Steering can be saved depending on the mounts you use
All up to you man, I did an H22A into my 98 Teg, I love it but it was a lot of work and when all was said and done? it wasn't cheap ....
Si
B20/VTEC
Pros:
-B20 VTEC will bolt right in, so you don't require aftermarket mounts.
-Once the motor is running right ? Great all motor potential with added torque of a 2.0 litre.
Cons:
-Unless you really know what your doing or don't have a lot of money/time? I wouldn't ..... putting a VTEC head on a non VTEC block and having it run properly <U>can be</U> trying on the patience, long and expensive. A lot of different variables can cause a slew of problems.
H22
Pros:
-Much better power and torque right off the bat.
-It's already VTEC
Cons:
-Kiss your A/C goodbye
-Need aftermarket mounts and a few other parts (axles, mid shaft, exhaust, shifter assembly) This does really add up.
-Need a good mechanic to install it, it's a tight fit and wiring is a bitch.
-Power Steering can be saved depending on the mounts you use
All up to you man, I did an H22A into my 98 Teg, I love it but it was a lot of work and when all was said and done? it wasn't cheap ....
Si
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Re: (smemts)
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Tons of drawbacks?
Please elaborate ...
Tons of drawbacks?
Please elaborate ...
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Re: b20vtec or h22a? (warric_k)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by warric_k »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">k20. welcome to the future.
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Agreed, if I had to do it over again or had more time and $$, I would have done K24 Block with K20A2 Head. This is the future .....
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Agreed, if I had to do it over again or had more time and $$, I would have done K24 Block with K20A2 Head. This is the future .....
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Re: b20vtec or h22a? (simon98h22)
By tons of drawbacks, I mean all of the things that you mentioned in your "cons" section, as well as the added weight to the front of our alread front-heavy cars. Also, I have heard that some H22 owners don't like being tied down to that particular tranny. If you go B-series, there are several options. For me, the cost would be a big issue, but on the other hand, a well-built CRVtec won't be cheap either. There are alot of things to consider.
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I would go with a flat out built up B20 or bored B18 without a vtec head. I wouldn't have the patience to deal with head issues if they arise. I would shy away from the H22 because you start limiting yourself with parts, mostly transmission choices.
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Re: (rwaggie)
If you know what your doing, in terms of building motors, then definetly go with the B20VTEC. If done right, the B20VTEC motors are an unbelieveably powerful setup. Thats IF you know what your doing. B20 is going to be alot easier to install, its an identical block (other than internals), to the B18's.
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Re: b20vtec or h22a? (4DooRGiSzer)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4DooRGiSzer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">F--K the stupid frankenstein motors, if its not VTEC leave it that way!
H22
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wow thats a really smart statement.
Must be talking from the years of experiance that you have with frankenstein motors.
H22
</TD></TR></TABLE>wow thats a really smart statement.
Must be talking from the years of experiance that you have with frankenstein motors.
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From: round rock, Tx, USA
Re: (B18_hatchie)
thx guys was kind of going the b20vtec way but heard alot of bad things about weak cylinder walls and putting a vtec combo together the compression is going to raise. Is it ok without having to sleeve the block? The h22 was looking a little expensive but the times after the work have looked awesome. The advice is really appreciated thx again!
