I Got A CRX With An OBD1 B17A1 GSR Motor In It And I Was Wondering If Theres Anyway To Tell What Year DB2 The Motors From, The Vins Gone And The Serial#- 1300368

 

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what do you mean the vin is gone? is it like rubbed off?

 

dude is not hard to figure it out.b17a are either year 92 or 93 only.

 

I know that im not a noob I have been in this game for a while. There is no vin stamp or tag on the block anywhere.

 

the head should have the year on there

 

Yeah the head says its a 91 thats why im trying to se what the block is

 

i'll check on my bare b17 block. im sellin it, do you wanna buy it?

 

Engines didn't come with VIN plates till 96 and up i believe. Check to see if you have B17 cams in the head. If you do there is a good chance the block belongs to the head and your engine is from a 92'.

 

if its a b17 then the block has to be from the 92 or 93 integra gsr.

 

Yeah I dont feel like pulling the cams out to check. Maybe when I have some money for the gaskets I might.

The ecu is throwing a code 41 and I just bought a brand new o2 for the 92 gsr.

 

The B17 is fairly rare, so most likely it's a 1992 model built in 1991. On a car around 18 years old, why does it even matter?

 

Just trying to find out information oin the motor I have never had on ebefore I like to know what I am dealing with

 

all i know is if its a real b17 it is extremly rare i herd they only made 2000 of them they are only usdm because at the time the gsr in japan was a 1.6l dohc vtec correct me if im wrong but im pretty sure

 

all integra was assemble in sayama,japan.from 1985-2007 last production.they shipped them to us.

 

ya even if they were assembled there they were only for usdm use there was no honda integra b17...at least this is what i was always told im almost 100 percent

 

Sweet I have a rare motor!!!!

 

hell ya u do 2200 to be exact man lol take care of that sht lol i got a jdm gsr and i still havnt seen a b17 wat does tha valve cover look like?

 

It's likely a '92 engine if the head was cast in '91, but it doesn't matter since the B17 was only sold in '92-93 and was identical for both years. As mentioned above, engines didn't come with VIN plates until 1996 IIRC.

The B17A1 valve cover looks exactly like the B18C1 valve cover.

 

From 90-93 in Japan, there was no GSR, only the XSi which used a B16, which is the dual cam 1.6L that 98EK is referring to. JDM B16A1's were 170 horsepower so its similar in power to the B17, but it was not called a GSR until '94. B17's were not used in Japan at any time, only USDM Intergra GSR's from 92-93 (blah blah everyone knows). Whoever said they had never seen a B17 with a Honda valve cover.. thats right, because it was never used in Japan! Again Targa is right.. head cast in 91, but put on a 92-93 block.. if you can hear VTEC engage, you know its a B17 head/B17 cams considering the B18A's (LS/GS of that generation) were non VTEC engines. I'm not really sure why you need to know if its a '92 or '93, as someone already stated, they are identical.

 

That is correct, with the addition of the RSi trim as well. Both the DA XSi and the DA RSi had the B16A engine in Japan.

The pre-OBD '90-91 B16A (no "1" suffix for JDM engines) had 158hp (160ps). The OBD-1 and newer ('92+) JDM B16A had 168hp (170ps). The B17A1 was rated at 160hp.

The 3rd-generation Integra was never called a "GSR" in Japan. The VTEC model was called "Si-VTEC" in earlier years, and "SiR-G" in later years.

All B-series valve covers were marked either "Honda" or "Honda Motor Co." whether they were originally installed in a Honda or Acura. There are a few differences among VTEC valve covers - mainly in the sizes of the "DOHC VTEC" lettering and the inclusion of the [H] symbol (USDM B17A1 and B18C1 valve covers didn't have an [H], while all other VTEC valve covers did).

 

The B17A bare block is actually identical to the B16A block. But the pistons, rods, and crank are different. The B17A crank gives you about 5mm more stroke. This is where the extra .1 liter comes from. Also, the rods are shorter in order to accommodate the increased stroke. But if you use the crank and rods together, you can stroke your B16A to 1.7 liters.

The pistons are also different. But since they actually decrease compression ratio, they are not desirable for an allmotor application. B17A compression is 9.7:1. If you use these pistons in a B16A (with its shorter stroke), compresion will end up even lower. However, using B16A pistons on top of the B17A crank and rods will probably give you compression somewhere in the mid to high 10's.

This, along with the displacement increase, would certainly be helpful in a B16A. On the other hand, B16A components will fit in a B17A block just as they would in a B16A block since the block is the same.

Also the b17 has a little more torque then the b16.

b17= 118lbs torque
b16= 111lbs torque

The HP is the same.

 

they were usdm only, you are correct on that, but honda made about 2200 in 92, idk the number for 93 but they ended up making about 5,000 db2's, give or take a little


you sir are correct
good info

 

oo ok then i jus looked on wikipedia but i thought they would be bullsht smtimes lol they sed 2200 total b17s but idk thats good info to know thanx

 

I my B17. I just picked up some P61 pistons and rods on ebay for $19...woo!