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Old Jul 26, 2004 | 07:54 PM
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Ok, I have the chance to buy a complete 94 GSR shell minus ITR interior and Tanabe suspension. The guy's putting in his OEM GSR interior which is fine by me. I like the fact that the car needs no body work at all. Its on great shape. I have a DA integra with a B16A in it that I can drop into the DC Integra. Now, i know that most people are accustomed to seeing a B18C in a DC2, but considering I dont have the money 2 buy a B18C, I think I will just drop my B16A into the DC2. All I would need is the tranny. My question is has anyone ever doen this or seen a DC2 with a B16A in it? Should I go ahead with the swap...I am going to turbo the B16A anyways so I know this will increase my power by a lot, but is it worth doing this or should i just wait to buy a B18C? As far as the suspension goes, I already have my own Tanabe Pro SS suspension to swap right in so that's no biggie...

What do you guys think about the project? Turbo B16A or should I wait to get a stock B18C in there?
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Old Jul 26, 2004 | 07:55 PM
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Might I add the fact that I'm getting it for less than $1,700....
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Old Jul 26, 2004 | 08:07 PM
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Well your Turbo'd b16 should move once your revs get high, its just that theres no replacement for displacement when it comes to producing torque.
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Old Jul 26, 2004 | 08:38 PM
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Yeah, if you can get the shell that cheap go for it, but save up for the B18C.
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Old Jul 26, 2004 | 08:40 PM
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Get a LS and turbo that.
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Old Jul 26, 2004 | 08:42 PM
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hmm well u hav a few options cuse i dotn know all the details

if ur DA is still in good condition u might wanna keep it for a beater drop the b18c then turbo up... or sell the DA get around 3 grand for it or so then buy the engine from that and some extra cash...

or if ur DA basically done.. drop the b16a in there wait untill u hav the cash to buy the b18c or just drop in that turbo

or if ur DA is non useable sell parts from ur car ship sell if u get enough from those parts to drop that b18 in there buy away or if u dont make enough u can still drop that engine in there .. (if u do part ur DA out i might need some parts so i will be lookin but it is still a MIGHT dont know if insurance is gonna fix or not)
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Old Jul 26, 2004 | 09:38 PM
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we're talking about 200cc's and 6 ci's here. b18c is not the great torque monster we all think it is . b16 is a great little motor, if you get a b16 trans the car will be just as fast as a gsr (stock body, stock motor comparison). there are a few people here on H-T that have done this swap simply because of low funds. if you're going to turbo, the b16 will be great. You wont miss those .2 liters, specially with that b16 gearset.

b16 da = 14.9-15.6 1/4
gsr dc = 14.9-15.6 1/4

and the DA chassis is heavier. so imagine it in a DC
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Old Jul 26, 2004 | 09:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rwaggie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well your Turbo'd b16 should move once your revs get high, its just that theres no replacement for displacement when it comes to producing torque.</TD></TR></TABLE> ummm ok. Forced induction=replacement for displacement. To the original poster, if you bore it out to 82 or so and turbo, you will never look back. ****, without boring it, you still won't ever look back. I had a b16 in my dc2 for a long *** time, (n/a), and that was terrible, imo.
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Old Jul 26, 2004 | 10:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 3.504 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">we're talking about 200cc's and 6 ci's here. b18c is not the great torque monster we all think it is . b16 is a great little motor, if you get a b16 trans the car will be just as fast as a gsr (stock body, stock motor comparison). there are a few people here on H-T that have done this swap simply because of low funds. if you're going to turbo, the b16 will be great. You wont miss those .2 liters, specially with that b16 gearset.

b16 da = 14.9-15.6 1/4
gsr dc = 14.9-15.6 1/4

and the DA chassis is heavier. so imagine it in a DC</TD></TR></TABLE>

true dat... just look at my name i mean, its not the quikest setup, but i can hang wit usdm gsrs... and i got an ls tranny talk about low funding haha. honestly, be orginal, do your own thing, i mean, put in a b17 crank and slap on a turbo and you got urself a decent setup for cheap. but honesly, its the driver, 15hp isnt gonna matter if you cant drive
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Old Jul 26, 2004 | 10:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dcb16 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

true dat... just look at my name i mean, its not the quikest setup, but i can hang wit usdm gsrs... and i got an ls tranny talk about low funding haha. honestly, be orginal, do your own thing, i mean, put in a b17 crank and slap on a turbo and you got urself a decent setup for cheap. but honesly, its the driver, 15hp isnt gonna matter if you cant drive </TD></TR></TABLE>

your car sucks and thats the bottom line.. lol..im playing..

yah but i would rather put an ls and turbo it rather than put a b16 and turbo that...it would be wayy cheaper..
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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 12:17 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 3.504 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">we're talking about 200cc's and 6 ci's here. b18c is not the great torque monster we all think it is . b16 is a great little motor, if you get a b16 trans the car will be just as fast as a gsr (stock body, stock motor comparison). there are a few people here on H-T that have done this swap simply because of low funds. if you're going to turbo, the b16 will be great. You wont miss those .2 liters, specially with that b16 gearset.

b16 da = 14.9-15.6 1/4
gsr dc = 14.9-15.6 1/4

and the DA chassis is heavier. so imagine it in a DC</TD></TR></TABLE>

i had a b16 in my da before it blew
you are so wrong on everything you said
a gsr will be a lot faster than a b16 if they are both in integras
a b16 in an integra really sucks cuz low end blows like hell but its still very slightely faster than a ls motor
and no the dc chassis in not lighter than a DA
ls DA = 2590 lbs from my helms
3rd gen gsr is 266x
so a da is more or less about 60 pounds lighter
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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 09:07 AM
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2556 = rs DA, LS/gs DA's are a little over 2600. and the gsrDC runs low 15's, a DA w/ a b16 runs low 15's. how is the gsr going to be "alot faster?"

also, do you have a b16 trans? the tranny is what makes or breaks the b16. it needs those crazy short gears to make it quick.
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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 01:12 PM
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i say try it.. i mean, you really not loosing anything. you have a DA.. swap the motor, if you don't like it, swap it back at a later date. its no big deal. just gotta fork out a few hundred bucks

i'm sure the b16 in a DC will feel about the same as it does in your b16. you maybe not be as fast as an ITR or watever, but just rememebr that there are slower cars out there, and you can def. hang with stock gs-rs anyday

i have a b16 in my DA with CTR cams and bolt ons. i use a j1 tranny its very fun to drive and gets me to low 15's if not faster on a budget
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 07:38 AM
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well, one of my friends has an extra USDM ITR tranny in his garage and he said I could have it for a few hundred bucks so I'm definitely going to hop on that and team it with the B16A. The thing is, I'm on a budget and have enough either to buy a stock B18C or swap my B16A in there and possibly do a bolt on turbo kit a few months down the line....I know if I get the B18C I wont have money to anything to it for a while....
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 07:42 AM
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another thing,someone told me that if i wanted to bring my car up to like 1.8 liters i should just bore it to like 82mm or something....
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 08:25 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mugenda6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well, one of my friends has an extra USDM ITR tranny in his garage</TD></TR></TABLE>

Lucky bastard.

Ok, for some time now I have been reading how a B16 in my LS would be a bad idea. I understand this because of the lack of low end torque. My LS is slowly dieing and needs a rebuild. I am low very low on funds right now, I do however have a B16 (2000 SI) siting in the corner of my garage. I was going to put it in a CRX or Civic hatch.

I don't have a CRX or hatch to put it into now, so would this be ok to put into my 95 LS? If I only use the LS for daily driving would this work well? I could then pull the LS and maybe rebuild it at a later date. I don't expect it to be a speed demon. Will a B16 in a DC be faster then a LS with DC 4-1, Apex N1 exhaust, Iceman cold air? I would leave all performance parts just replace the B18B.

Any help would be great. Thanks, Dan.
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 09:36 AM
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it'll <U>only</U> be faster if you use a b16 trans w/ the b16. this is what makes the b16 quick. if you use the LS trans on a b16, it might be a hair quicker or about the same. the LS trans will make you notice the lack of torque, the b16 trans gives the illusion of torque because of such short gears.
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 10:10 AM
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I got the B16 to do a LS/Vtec or Swap into CRX/Civic hatch. I found that my LS was not up to par. If I do swap in the B16 it will have the B16 trans also. I only ask this because I have almost everything I need to swap it in, and I have no money to spend. Will my LS axles work for temporary? I have HAsport motor mounts, will these work for the swap also?
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 01:34 PM
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no need.. for simplicities sake.. a v16 will drop right into any DC chassis.. just the way the OEM motor would. jsut wire up the vtec and go.. will not be as fast, and it will feel laggy with the LS tranny.. but honestly its livable. you're not going to be passed by 60 year old ladies.. maybe it'll feel like an automatic civic or accord.. but you can still get around
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 01:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spoonfed95 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I got the B16 to do a LS/Vtec or Swap into CRX/Civic hatch. I found that my LS was not up to par. If I do swap in the B16 it will have the B16 trans also. I only ask this because I have almost everything I need to swap it in, and I have no money to spend. Will my LS axles work for temporary? I have HAsport motor mounts, will these work for the swap also?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I hace a complete 2000 SI engine minus Axles, wiring harness, motor mounts.

I just need to know if my LS axles will work and if my HASport motor mounts will work also. Thanks, Dan
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 01:58 PM
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Sorry for hyjacking the thread.
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