just curious cause im looking for parts for my b16a1 swap like a lightweight flywheel clutch intake headers all that jaz and i was wondering if i get it for lets say a b18b for b18c is it going to fit on the b16a1 and i was also wondering what car this motor comes out of

thanks

 

Your new, but still... the search button in the top right is your absolute best friend here. Specification information and engine hybrid theory has been covered countless times. Just do a search under archives and plenty will come up. Good luck.

https://honda-tech.com/zerosearch

 

well after just performing a search i found out that the search option works like sh_t!! i must have search with 8 different things and i got crap

can ne one just come on here and give me a straight answer

thanks

 

As far as the header goes, all b series headers are the same where it bolts to the head but you might have a problem where it bolts to the cat. I think the clutch and flywheel depends if you transmission is cable or hydro, but Im not sure.......I think the older B16s are different from the rest.

what car/engine do you have? You need more practice with the search feature BTW

 

Yah I'm guessin you have an older B16 (gen 1 vs SIR II, etc).

Anywho be careful when you're buying a clutch. Just like in the 90-91 vs 92-93 tegs, the clutches are different (splines). Same goes for a 1st B16A and a B16A SIR II. They are different. Get the right clutch

-- Kevin

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bigger junk &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just curious cause im looking for parts for my b16a1 swap like a lightweight flywheel clutch intake headers all that jaz and i was wondering if i get it for lets say a b18b for b18c is it going to fit on the b16a1 and i was also wondering what car this motor comes out of

thanks </TD></TR></TABLE>
all b seris flywheels are interchangable
all headers will bolt up to the head but will not bolt up to the cat but any muffler shop can fix this
there are 2 different clutches small spline clutch disk for 90-91 trannies (a1 y1 s1 j1) and big spline clutch for 92-01 trannies (cable ys1 and all hydro's s80, etc). all pressure plates and piolot bearings are the interchangable and there is 1 thorow out bearings for cable and one for hydro
all internales of the engine are interchangable between vtec b series but you much match the crank with the rods
the only differance between a b20 and a b18a/b is the 84mm bore

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by riceball777 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
all b seris flywheels are interchangable
all headers will bolt up to the head but will not bolt up to the cat but any muffler shop can fix this
there are 2 different clutches small spline clutch disk for 90-91 trannies (a1 y1 s1 j1) and big spline clutch for 92-01 trannies. all pressure plates and piolot bearings are the interchangable and there is 1 thorow out bearings for cable and one for hydro
all internales of the engine are interchangable between vtec b series but you much match the crank with the rods
the only differance between a b20 and a b18a/b is the 84mm bore</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well damn, that's detailed! This wasn't even my thread but I'm def glad I saw that. More info then I knew or posted

-- Kevin

 

kick *** info thanks

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by riceball777 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
all b seris flywheels are interchangable
</TD></TR></TABLE>Correct
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by riceball777 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
all headers will bolt up to the head but will not bolt up to the cat but any muffler shop can fix this
</TD></TR></TABLE>A B16 block is shorter and a lot of headers are made with that in mind so not all b16 headers will fit b18s. But all b18 headers will fit b16s.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by riceball777 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
there are 2 different clutches small spline clutch disk for 90-91 trannies (a1 y1 s1 j1) and big spline clutch for 92-01 trannies (cable ys1 and all hydro's s80, etc). all pressure plates and piolot bearings are the interchangable and there is 1 thorow out bearings for cable and one for hydro
</TD></TR></TABLE>Correct again
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by riceball777 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
all internales of the engine are interchangable between vtec b series but you much match the crank with the rods
</TD></TR></TABLE>Half correct. A b16 having a shorter deck, the only way to use a b16 crank in a gsr/ls block would be to have custom rods made that are much longer. Same with using an LS crank in a b16 block. The rods would be much to short. You can do this with a B18a/b and a GSR/ITR but using LS crank and rods in a gsr/r you would need to move or remove the oil squirters.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by riceball777 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
the only differance between a b20 and a b18a/b is the 84mm bore</TD></TR></TABLE>Thats not the only differences but for the most part yeah.

 

[QUOTE=Sack Master]Correct
A B16 block is shorter and a lot of headers are made with that in mind so not all b16 headers will fit b18s. But all b18 headers will fit b16s.

incorrect

well if you really want to get specific
the shorter b16 deack height is very little and will not affect anything
all headers for the b16 will fit b18's
but there are 2 type of b seris oil pans
b16/ls/b20 oil pan holds 4.5 quarts
b18c/gsr/itr oil pan 4 quarts only
many 4-1 headers made for the b18c such as the jdm itr header will not fit b16's/ls/b20s because of the bigger oil pan. and the header will hit the oil pan not leting the header to sit fluch to the head
the only way to fix this is to use a p72/gsr/itr oil pan

 

I don't know about that oil pan thing. I've had a gsr and an ls pan on my ls vtec. I have always used 4.6 quarts(including filter). That's exactly what I used on my gs-r motor too. As the owners manual states. So that info is wrong. I do know that an ls pan won't fit on a gs-r. I tried putting my ls pan on my gsr motor and it wouldn't work.
But I'm not going to argue with you about this anymore. I was just trying to help. I usually don't get into posting all the differences and such between motors because every single one of them is different. If honda was only more like chevy maybe parts wouldn't be so expensive.

 

if im useing the b16a1 motor and tranny what clutches will work

thanks

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the 1st gen B16s would like a clutch assembly from a 90-91 Integra, (for example)

-- Kevin

 

wow i like these forums thanks for the info now one more quick question then i can let this thread die

if i search for performance parts whats the car i search for meaning what car did this motor come out of

thanks

 

Well I def know they can come from Integras (90-91 in US years, even though I'm talking JDM, which technically they were available in 89). Also, I do believe the CRX SiRs came with a B16A? Regardless, I know for the B16 swap in my car, along with ones I've done, I/we search for the car it came from. For instance, my B16A SIR II, I got a clutch package for a 92-93 Integra. For you, I would search for a 90-91 Integra clutch package. You can def find them all over eBay, different brands, different sellers, etc.

Head on over to http://www.g2ic.com and check out their Engine Swap Guide in the Teg Tips section. It has a pretty detailed description of what all you need to do to swap just about any B series engine into a 90-91 or 92-93 Integra (including the 1st gen B16 you wanna swap).

HTH

-- Kevin

 

thanks a bunch

i cant wait to get started