Alignment problem - last resort.
95 LS integra.. bought it for a grand without knowing about a previous undisclosed accident. I've had the car for two years now but it's eating through a pair of tires on the rear every six months. Toe on driver side rear is about -2.5 deg.. causing the tire disintegration.
Diagnosed it, result is subframe damage. Not going to try and straighten it out as it's probably not worth it but I do wanna keep it around as a thing-carrier and stuff-mover as well as a rainy-day car (even though a compression test shows that cylinders 2 and 3 are under-pressure, the car still runs great).
SO I'm considering installing aftermarket toe-adjusters to compensate.. and maybe even throw in a camber kit just to half-*** a straightening job. Am I making any sense or is this idea completely far fetched? Will aftermarket toe-adjusters adjust past the factory adjusters? Seems like they adjust by turning the main shaft as opposed to where the ends meet the frame or am I seeing things wrong?
Diagnosed it, result is subframe damage. Not going to try and straighten it out as it's probably not worth it but I do wanna keep it around as a thing-carrier and stuff-mover as well as a rainy-day car (even though a compression test shows that cylinders 2 and 3 are under-pressure, the car still runs great).
SO I'm considering installing aftermarket toe-adjusters to compensate.. and maybe even throw in a camber kit just to half-*** a straightening job. Am I making any sense or is this idea completely far fetched? Will aftermarket toe-adjusters adjust past the factory adjusters? Seems like they adjust by turning the main shaft as opposed to where the ends meet the frame or am I seeing things wrong?
95 LS integra.. bought it for a grand without knowing about a previous undisclosed accident. I've had the car for two years now but it's eating through a pair of tires on the rear every six months. Toe on driver side rear is about -2.5 deg.. causing the tire disintegration.
Diagnosed it, result is subframe damage. Not going to try and straighten it out as it's probably not worth it but I do wanna keep it around as a thing-carrier and stuff-mover as well as a rainy-day car (even though a compression test shows that cylinders 2 and 3 are under-pressure, the car still runs great).
SO I'm considering installing aftermarket toe-adjusters to compensate.. and maybe even throw in a camber kit just to half-*** a straightening job. Am I making any sense or is this idea completely far fetched? Will aftermarket toe-adjusters adjust past the factory adjusters? Seems like they adjust by turning the main shaft as opposed to where the ends meet the frame or am I seeing things wrong?
Diagnosed it, result is subframe damage. Not going to try and straighten it out as it's probably not worth it but I do wanna keep it around as a thing-carrier and stuff-mover as well as a rainy-day car (even though a compression test shows that cylinders 2 and 3 are under-pressure, the car still runs great).
SO I'm considering installing aftermarket toe-adjusters to compensate.. and maybe even throw in a camber kit just to half-*** a straightening job. Am I making any sense or is this idea completely far fetched? Will aftermarket toe-adjusters adjust past the factory adjusters? Seems like they adjust by turning the main shaft as opposed to where the ends meet the frame or am I seeing things wrong?
have you tried to have it aligned the way it is? try to find a shop that will get it as close as they can, even if its a degree more positive it will make a big difference. i dont know about these aftermarket toe adjusters, but my guess is that they are adjustable past the original ones, or why would they make them.
camber kits will most likely be unnecessary but you wont know until the toe is adjusted.
Aftermarket toe adjusters can adjust beyond the factory range, because they leave the factory adjustment intact.
The downside is, due to their form of adjustment being a change in the length of the arm itself, you end up with uneven toe curves (left to right) if both sides aren't perfectly matched in length. You also change the factory toe curve by changing the length at all, which may or may not be detrimental to handling and tire wear.
In regards to camber kits for the rear, you can always reduce negative camber with longer bolts and washers. If the subframe is so bent that you have positive camber, I would get the subframe fixed before trying to "hack it". However, there are no clearance issues with rear camber kits, unlike front kits.
Anyway, there's some information to make your decision with. You'll probably get more from others too.
The downside is, due to their form of adjustment being a change in the length of the arm itself, you end up with uneven toe curves (left to right) if both sides aren't perfectly matched in length. You also change the factory toe curve by changing the length at all, which may or may not be detrimental to handling and tire wear.
In regards to camber kits for the rear, you can always reduce negative camber with longer bolts and washers. If the subframe is so bent that you have positive camber, I would get the subframe fixed before trying to "hack it". However, there are no clearance issues with rear camber kits, unlike front kits.
Anyway, there's some information to make your decision with. You'll probably get more from others too.
I did actually take the car to a good shop I know and actually crawled under the car with the mechanic to try and force the toe adjustment arm further past it's limit.. all to no avail. I only mention camber because I noticed my camber was at a -1 deg and although camber doesn't affect tire wear nearly as much as toe, I figured i'd fix it too.
Maybe a toe adjuster is just what I need.. and I know the toe curves might get all gnar on me but I've dealt with the strange rear handling for long enough to know that I can drive with offset toe curves.
Maybe a toe adjuster is just what I need.. and I know the toe curves might get all gnar on me but I've dealt with the strange rear handling for long enough to know that I can drive with offset toe curves.
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