i saw an integra b18c1 in dsport mag. reach 485 whp and uses it as a daily driver. That is something i would like to have, but the thing is I have b18b1 in my Teg w/ alot of $ invested in aftermarket parts. How can i get my teg to get those kind of numbers? Need some help guys.

 

Sleeved Block Turbo

 

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yep, pretty much. Its going to take a lot of money and a lot of patients... dont buy shitty parts, only the best. or atleast high quality stuff. Youll have to partially build the engine and turbo it.. high psi

 

That was the idea that came to my mind but i need my car to drive to work every day. I was thinking of buying same engine and just have a machine shop do all the work then 2 weeks down the road when done have it installed. shouldnt take no more than couple of days to do the install. What are some good places in SoCal where i can get this **** done?

 

Send bolck to golden eagle mfg. get it sleeved. You have to strip everything off the block to get them to do it for about 800 bucks. That way ... There is a lot of **** you have to do man I am in Nor cal I don't know of any shops from the bay down.. sorry You will save a lot of money if you do it yourself (except the sleeve part) and the learning will be priceless

 

thing is i got mobilzed from the army and they have me livin up in a hotel right now, so i dont have a garage to be doing this 'ish. plus i dont know anyone around here really. I heard Bensons Auto Machine does a good job, anyone get **** done there before?

 

I only know nor cal, but I know some very good shops who would love to take your money but get the job done right

 

Rage performance in upland does good work. There are some good places in OC. DPR does good work, same with JE (or is it JG?) builds some killer motors. JE/JG has a good website all about there work

You know you are looking to spend maybe $8000+ to get thoses kinda numbers. Ask around in the FI forum, but from what i have heard 300hp is hard to make streetable. I cant imagine close to 500.

 

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Daym thats alot of cash. How about givin me some numbers on cost per project. approximate for sleeve, boring, pistons/rods/etc, turbo. haha im suppose to be saving up for a house but this fascinates me more.

 

btw thnx for all the info, been a greater help compared to most forums ive been to.

 

GSR motor at least $1000. A Basic turbo like greaddy is about $3000, and that is for pretty low boost. I think the greddy kit will only get you about 250hp max (please correct me if i am wrong)

So you are now at about $4000 with out even touching the insides, or getting it installed, tuned....etc

Also to get that much HP you will have to invest in a full computer program (hondata) and these are not cheap.

Many years ago i looked into a full build and it was over 10,000. That was fully built and turbo, drive the car in "stock" drive out full on race car.

 

you can only have two of the three
Power
Reliable
Cheep

 

It is very expensive to go all out turbo, you can make 400 whp alot easier than 500. If you set your goals for high 300's, low 400s you can usually get away with just getting pistons and rods, instead of spending another 1k on sleeving.

The block you have now, DEFINITELY take to bensons or to Earl on here, he does awesome sleeving and earl gives some top notch service.

Also search alot in the F/I forum and search for what you may be looking for. quick spool? top end?

A break down in price would go about like this.

Pistons/rods/bearings = 900
Turbo = 700-1200 depending on turbo you want.
Manifold = 200-1000 once again depending on whether you want log or equal length.
Downpipe = 250
3" exhaust = 600
Intercooler = 200-450 depending on type you get. You can get precision for 450 for xo2 or JRC for 200
Intercooler piping = 250ish
Wastegate = 220
BOV = 150
Injectors = 350
Bore/hone = 150
GE head studs/GE ls/vtec conversion = 400
b16 Vtec head = 600
Tbelt/water pump/oil pump = 450
Clutch = 600
Flywheel = 200
Neptune Management system = 250ish
p28 ecu = 150
Welding/misc/couplers/tbolts/gaskets/oil return/feed = 800
Tuning= 500
Having someone else install it for you = roughly 1k

So right there you are sitting right around 9500 for EVERYTHING

Its expensive, but well worth it in the end. It takes alot of time and money, but this is the ONLY way to do it if you want to be fast and reliable.

Like they say: fast, reliable, cheap: pick 2

Good luck

 

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Power
Reliable
Cheep

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Can you really have big power and reliable??? That would be my concer at what HP do you throw the daily driver/reliable out the window??

We know you can build a 200-250hp motor and it can be reliable. But can you do the same with 300 or 400hp+??

If money was no object could you build a 500HP motor that would have a good reliabilty?? Or at that point is everything so race tuned that you will have nothing but prblems if you try to drive it daily??

p.s. I am asking these questions to try and help out the original poster.

 

Yes you can have that realiability with huge horsepower. You can have a 500-600 whp monster and it work out fine. What its really gonna come down to, is the tuning and how you treat it on the street. If you are really really harsh with it on the street, no motor is really gonna last too long. If you turn down the boost so you are making 300 whp, alot of people are making that on completely stock blocks for several years.

Just dont jip out on the tuning and the components you use, and it will last you. Im going for 550 whp and have spent alot more than i posted earlier. But I also plan on having it last awhile.


Modified by 95GSRTT at 3:26 AM 6/3/2005

 

No one will believe this but a guy I know has a type r FULLY BUILT TO the ****** hilt streetable 800hp. I could care less if you believe me but its the truth. He runs consistent 10.50's with 350-400 hp. Its all abou the boost. He has dynoed a supposed 800hp though. You can acheive whatever you want with knowledge and a shitload of money

 

I drive an RS and I was putting together my list a while ago. These prices are from contacting various dealers on the board.

Precision SC34 (from Arturbo $775.00)
Arias Pistons(10:1) $~600
Crower rods $650
Hondata $~500
N1 style muffler, resonator with piping (from kteller8 $450)
RC Engineering Injectors
RevHard or skunk2 intake manifold $~300.00
PWR Intercooler /w piping (from earl $445 for 8x26x3 PWR IC $400 for piping)
HKS SSQ BOV $210.00
Darton Sleeves $450.00
Tial Wastegate $239.00
GSR tranny
Act Clutch Kit - AI4-XTSS (from kteller8 $460.00)
Random Technology High Flow Cat.
Downpipe (RevHard 2.5") (from kteller8 Revhard 2.5" 150.00)
Walbro fuel pump
Quaife Limited Slip $770.00

The prices might be a little off since this list is a couple of months old.

 

And dont forget to add the cost of a new motor if you want to buy a new motor and build it then install it. Some of that cost you can get back if you sell the old motor.

 

you can make 400whp easily with an LS if you know how to build it right. hell, with my very simple setup i made 380whp. it honestly doesn't take much to make that power except a strong motor and efficent setup.

also do take note that MOST of the people on here making over 400whp are doing so on race fuel, not your everyday pump gas. on pump they're probably making around 350~375whp which is easily controlled on the street if driven properlly.

 

I'm not sure if I want to hit 400 WHP for a daily driver. I am pushing for 300 WHP when I boost, but my Teg won't even be an daily driver. For me, I'm going for sleeve block, boost, and Hondata tuned.

 

ya but sherman your car is a freak, and almost the only LS i know of that has made the same kind of power a vtec car would on the same amount of boost.

I still consider it a phenomenon

 

I personally want to mildly built my block with rods, pistons, and a block guard and aim for 350 on high boost and maybe 275-300 on everyday.

 

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That's impressive Sherman. Your car IS a freak. You're almost hitting 400 WHP without VTEC. Sorry, but I'm a sucker for VTEC.

 

LSVTEC... The vtec heads flow waaaaaay better, and you are going to have the benefit of vtec. If you build it right, it will be reliable as hell.

There was a FULLY built LS turbo at the dyno the other day... only made like 320 something to the wheels, where my friend's built gsr make like 450 something on less boost.

 

I'm running a LS/V setup. The B16 head flows waaaay better.

What's your friend's setup? 450 WHP? Hmmm...
One of the guys in the ITR threads is running a boosted ITR. I think he has 411 WHP running high 11's.