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Old Nov 10, 2010 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 94EG8
They updated the gaskets. IIRC they're a metal design now.
Or in some cases just eliminated them by design. I did an intake manifold swap on a late model Corvette a few months ago and there is no coolant run to the manifold, it's plastic, and just has some large rectangular o-rings where it meets the port on the head.
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 07:38 PM
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I remember reading about the gasket problems years ago. GM continued using Dexcool, and if gaskets were still failing they would be bankrupt by now....oh wait, they ARE bankrupt...Hmmmmmm. Maybe somewhere along the way the formulation changed, or they changed what the gaskets are made of.



Thanks for the informative post.

The on-line place I usually buy Honda parts from would not ship anti-freeze, and my local dealer was selling it for $14.00 a gallon for the pre-mixed stuff – so 2 of those, with tax, would be over $30. Half of that, $15, was for water. No thanks. The big concern is over silicates and borates (and sometime phosphates) in the original “green” stuff. At the time all I could find that did NOT have these was DexCool, and I’m well aware of what the concern is over this stuff. From what I read, problems can happen when people do not keep the coolant topped off (may be because of a leak), and over time that can cause the stuff to react with air and possibly gel. I gave it a try and it worked for me.
While internet information is questionable, I can tell you for a fact that this link is true.
http://mr2.com/TEXT/HondaCoolant.html
It is a direct copy of information released by Honda. In regards to using Dexcool. It is not ethylene glycol. It does not contain the corrosion inhibitors for use in Honda vehicles. When it is time to replace your cooling system components you will chalk it up to age and mileage rather than negligence on your part. Sad...
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Old Nov 12, 2010 | 01:55 PM
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Default Re: Do Honda's Require Special Antifreeze/Coolant?

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While internet information is questionable, I can tell you for a fact that this link is true.
http://mr2.com/TEXT/HondaCoolant.html
It is a direct copy of information released by Honda. In regards to using Dexcool. It is not ethylene glycol. It does not contain the corrosion inhibitors for use in Honda vehicles. When it is time to replace your cooling system components you will chalk it up to age and mileage rather than negligence on your part. Sad...
Thanks for the link, it’s informative, and I completely agree with what the guy is saying – and that’s NOT to use coolant with silicates or borates. IMO, the test would have been more meaningful, to the consumer, if they had compared Honda Coolant vs. a similar non silicate/borates formulation, but that probably would not have proved their point. As for mine failing, maybe Honda's are better engineered than I give them credit for, this one has got 10 years of my ‘negligence’ and still going strong.
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Old Nov 21, 2010 | 07:14 PM
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If you bothered researching as much as you bother posting bullshit, then perhaps you would be better informed. Honda coolant is around $9 gallon. About the same price as the crap you put in your car now. Im not going to try to bother to explain the diffrences in HOAT, OAT, EG,sillicates, non-silicate and the various other coolant combinations to a moron who uses DEX-COOL in his Honda. Use what ever your little brain desires, its just a car and it makes no difference, they all have 4 tires and go VROOM....
More like $16 dollars a gallon.......Maybe you should actually do some research champ.


The Prestone neon green stuff is fine. The only Honda fluids I use are tranny fluid and power steering.
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Old Nov 21, 2010 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 19Accord97
More like $16 dollars a gallon.......Maybe you should actually do some research champ.


The Prestone neon green stuff is fine. The only Honda fluids I use are tranny fluid and power steering.
No its not fine "champ". The fact that you even posted this shows the depth of your knowledge regarding this subject while simultaneously showing your ignorance...
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Old Nov 21, 2010 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 94EG8
You can still buy the older dark green stuff. The blue stuff is known as type II



Temperature isn't the only reason you run antifreeze, plain old water does some pretty nasty stuff to the inside of a cooling system. Also antifreeze not only lowers the freezing point, it also raises the boiling point.

Should Never run straight water in a cooling system, only reason is when you go to the track, in case you blow a hose or something they dont want antifreeze all over the track killing people and contaminating the ground...You'll get a fine, if anyone seen the episode of Pinks (I think) where the kid ran antifreeze and blew something and it leaked all over track he got hardcore bitched at like wtf are you an idiot...In that case you run water with a coolant additive like water wetter or something to prevent the water from attacking the metal parts and rusting/corroding out....and to straighten it out...Water TRANSFERS HEAT BETTER than coolant, people think running straight coolant is better because they think it will cool better but it won't.
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Old Nov 21, 2010 | 10:08 PM
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No its not fine "champ". The fact that you even posted this shows the depth of your knowledge regarding this subject while simultaneously showing your ignorance...
My ignorance? Sorry bud, but you bashed on the guy for his lack of research, yet you can't even find out that the coolant is $16, when you claim it is $9. Easy.

Secondly, where is the proof the Honda coolant is so much better? After what, maybe 3,000,000 miles there will be a noticeable difference? Flushing the coolant at the recommended intervals will be more than sufficient whether you use Prestone all make/model or Honda coolant.
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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 05:50 PM
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My ignorance? Sorry bud, but you bashed on the guy for his lack of research, yet you can't even find out that the coolant is $16, when you claim it is $9. Easy.

Secondly, where is the proof the Honda coolant is so much better? After what, maybe 3,000,000 miles there will be a noticeable difference? Flushing the coolant at the recommended intervals will be more than sufficient whether you use Prestone all make/model or Honda coolant.
Proof huh? Son you wouldnt know what to do with the proof if I smacked you in the face with it. You go on about jer biznes boy! Nobody can tell you nothin, you been there and done that! LoL, stupid kid,paying $16 bucks for coolant. Place i get it is $9 but they dont have a web site. But these 2 sites sell it for around the going rate...Go away.
http://www.hondapartsdeals.com/produ...ntenance-parts
http://www.bernardiparts.com/Honda-A...L999-9011.aspx
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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 10:27 PM
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Proof huh? Son you wouldnt know what to do with the proof if I smacked you in the face with it. You go on about jer biznes boy! Nobody can tell you nothin, you been there and done that! LoL, stupid kid,paying $16 bucks for coolant. Place i get it is $9 but they dont have a web site. But these 2 sites sell it for around the going rate...Go away.
http://www.hondapartsdeals.com/produ...ntenance-parts
http://www.bernardiparts.com/Honda-A...L999-9011.aspx
lmao You are beyond an idiot! The 2nd site has the coolant for $11.75 and SHIPPING came out to be about $13.50. For a grand total of $25.25. What a GREAT deal! My info actually came from when I BOUGHT a gallon of the stuff from my dealership a couple years back. But hey, that doesn't mean anything. You are simply retarded.

Sadly, you can't see the coolant on Wal-Marts site. Instead, you can walk your *** inside and see that it is $8.50 for the 50/50 and most of the jugs have a $7 rebate sticker on the front. So hard to do I know.
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