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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 11:40 AM
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I have an 01 GSR with 107K miles on it.
I do not know if the previous owner changed
the timing belt yet. I popped off the valve
cover and it loooks good. but is there another
way i can tell that i need to change it?
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 12:03 PM
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if you dont know then change it since its over 100k. another is have your valve cover off and turn your crank pulley counter clockwise. look for stretch marks, cracks, etc
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 01:13 PM
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You can't tell by looking at it. If you know where the previous owner had the car serviced, you could call them and ask them to check their records. Otherwise, I would just change it. Better safe than sorry.
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Old Apr 25, 2009 | 02:04 PM
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if its the oringal oem belt you can tell it should have honda on it unless its been changed for a oem belt,what i say just change it if you feel like its not just give's you that peice of mind cause once it snaps ur in way more trouble later off the downrun.
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 09:38 PM
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agreed better safe than sorry good rule of thumb to also change water pump while you have it tore down just an idea
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 05:55 AM
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suggested is around 80,000 for timing belt and water pump.
BETTER SAFE THEN SORRY!!
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by sorcpwn
suggested is around 80,000 for timing belt and water pump.
I don't know where you get your "suggested" number from. The owner's manual and service manual for the '01 Integra say 105K miles or 7 years, whichever comes first, for the timing belt. In this case, both the mileage and the time have been exceeded.

There is no specific interval recommendation from Honda for replacing the water pump. However, most people (including me) recommend doing so because it's all the same work as the timing belt, so you may as well replace the water pump while you're doing the timing belt, so you don't have to re-do the same work later.
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by nsxtasy
I don't know where you get your "suggested" number from. The owner's manual and service manual for the '01 Integra say 105K miles or 7 years, whichever comes first, for the timing belt. In this case, both the mileage and the time have been exceeded.

There is no specific interval recommendation from Honda for replacing the water pump. However, most people (including me) recommend doing so because it's all the same work as the timing belt, so you may as well replace the water pump while you're doing the timing belt, so you don't have to re-do the same work later.
yep and you might as well replace the tensioner pulley and spring while your at it

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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 08:38 PM
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timing belt, tensioner and water pump. the parts will cost you a whopping $120 maybe. compare that to what the dealer charges. I did the head gasket on mine while I was in there too ...

better safe than sorry.
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timing belt, tensioner and water pump. the parts will cost you a whopping $120 maybe. compare that to what the dealer charges. I did the head gasket on mine while I was in there too ...

better safe than sorry.
Where are you getting those prices? Those parts together typically go for around $200 from an online parts dealer.
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 04:30 AM
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Where are you getting those prices? Those parts together typically go for around $200 from an online parts dealer.
agreed. $120 is a little on the low side. but whatever it costs, it's way cheaper than the $945 I got quoted from Acura.
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 01:27 PM
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last time I got a kit from tom@yoparts it was 125 for everything shipped, he is a sponsor on this board
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If that is really the price for timing belt + tensioner pulley + water pump, I would question if those are really brand new OEM parts.

From acuraautomotiveparts.org:

Timing belt 42.92
Tensioner pulley 56.12
Water pump 87.90 (includes gasket)

That's 186.94. I usually replace the tensioner spring also, at 3.32, so that's 190.26 + shipping.

If you got the same parts that you can find on http://oem.yoparts.com then I question if those are actually OEM. I highly suspect that they aren't.
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by PatrickGSR94
If that is really the price for timing belt + tensioner pulley + water pump, I would question if those are really brand new OEM parts.
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If you got the same parts that you can find on http://oem.yoparts.com then I question if those are actually OEM. I highly suspect that they aren't.


$125 is substantially less than what the dealer pays Honda for the parts.
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 08:45 PM
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I used 2 of his kits, one on my B16 and one on my LS no problems, the spring actually comes in a honda bag, the belt is supposed to be an unmarked oem belt which I heard gates makes the honda belts not sure though, the tensioner and water pump were both made in japan, idk no if that means anything but I haven't had any issues with either kit. also you can get the honda branded stuff from him but Its a little more, also dealer mark up for honda is usaully like 110% which is twice what they pay and a little more. ... also its been like a year or so since I ordered anything from him so things may have changed


PS I am not affiliated with y0parts I have just had good experiences with Toms business

*edit* i didn't go thru the website I dealt directly with tom thru IM and phone b4 the really had much of a website
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Old May 1, 2009 | 12:45 AM
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he went to autozone lol
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Old May 1, 2009 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by egsleepercivic
dealer mark up for honda is usaully like 110% which is twice what they pay and a little more.
Not true. Dealer cost is typically 60 percent of the list price. Dealers who discount, like Delray Acura, typically charge 75 percent of the list price.
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Old May 1, 2009 | 09:08 AM
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you dont need to change the spring and tensioner especially the first timing belt change, i didnt second time around i will though.
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Originally Posted by PatrickGSR94
If that is really the price for timing belt + tensioner pulley + water pump, I would question if those are really brand new OEM parts.

From acuraautomotiveparts.org:

Timing belt 42.92
Tensioner pulley 56.12
Water pump 87.90 (includes gasket)

That's 186.94. I usually replace the tensioner spring also, at 3.32, so that's 190.26 + shipping.

If you got the same parts that you can find on http://oem.yoparts.com then I question if those are actually OEM. I highly suspect that they aren't.

anyone got the parts numbers for all three of those items?
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 02:19 PM
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Check www.acuraautomotiveparts.org and order from them too if you're somewhat near their location in GA. I'm only 2 states away so I always order from there, takes 2 days w/ standard FedEx shipping.
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by imroadk1ll
anyone got the parts numbers for all three of those items?
The Delray Acura website shows part numbers as well as giving you good prices if you decide to order them there.
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 05:54 PM
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i am going to order from them i just need the parts numbers i cant find the water pump and tensioner pulley. i got the 14400-P72-014 BELT, TIMING (126RU26) $42.92.
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 07:29 PM
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i am going to order from them i just need the parts numbers i cant find the water pump and tensioner pulley. i got the 14400-P72-014 BELT, TIMING (126RU26) $42.92.
These are all of the items that I recommend replacing with a timing belt service for a B18C1:

12341-PR3-000 (x1) Valve cover gasket - A good idea to replace this if it's seeping oil, hardened, or cracking.
12342-PT2-000 (x4) Spark plug tube O-ring - Again, a good idea to replace these while the valve cover is off.
12513-P72-003 (x1) Exhaust cam plug - Not really necessary unless it's leaking oil, but it is a common leak point.
14400-P72-014 (x1) Timing belt - OE is usually Unitta Sun or Gates; Contitech and Goodyear are good brands as well. The common aftermarket part number is TB247.
14510-P30-003 (x1) Timing belt tensioner - I recommend Koyo or NTN.
14516-PR4-A00 (x1) Tensioner spring
19200-P72-013 (x1) Water pump - OE is Yamada; I also recommend NPW. Do not use GMB.
31110-P72-004 (x1) Alternator belt - Bando and Mitsuboshi belts are best; this one is a 4PK-785.
31110-PV0-004 (x1) A/C compressor belt - Bando and Mitsuboshi belts are best; this one is a 4PK-840.
38942-P2K-T01 (x1) A/C belt idler pulley - Not necessary unless the bearing is rough or noisy. Honda only sells the complete pulley w/bearing, but the bearing itself is easily replaceable with a Timken 203FF.
56992-P72-004 (x1) Power steering pump belt - Bando and Mitsuboshi belts are best; this one is a 4PK-920.
90442-P30-000 (x8) Valve cover seal washer - Not really necessary unless they're seeping oil, hardened, or cracking.
91213-PR3-004 (x2) Camshaft seal - It's a good idea to replace these while you have the timing belt off.

You'll also need coolant (use the green stuff and mix 50/50, do not use Dexcool) and some Hondabond HT or Honda Ultra Flange Sealant.

You'll see in my notes that not all of these items may need replacement, but they are all easily accessible while you have everything apart for the job, so it's a good time to address them so that you don't have to tear it down again too soon. These are all items that I commonly see problems with when our shop does timing belt services.
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 09:22 PM
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^ thank you so much. ya i was already going to order a valve cover gasket and that so called cam seal/plug with the timing belt and water pump. thanks again for answering my question
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Originally Posted by Targa250R
12513-P72-003 (x1) Exhaust cam plug - Not really necessary unless it's leaking oil, but it is a common leak point.
Replaced my original rubber plug back in January 2003 when the car had probably 115K-120K on it. I used the revised plastic plug (this part number shown above) with o-rings included, and it has never leaked since. Since then I have replaced the timing belt 2 more times and the car now has nearly 280K on it.

Bling-blang shiny aluminum plug is not really needed.
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