20strong

I was hoping I could get some input. I want to drop my Si and tuck my 20's. How would I go about getting the rear tire to pull in without a crap load of negative camber? I would like to drop it like 1 1/2 inches. I know that isnt much of a drop but I only have like 1/2 inch gap right now. Thanks for any input.

Thanks again.

norcal450

sorry i cant help answer your question but i am very curious as to how the ride is with those dub's? also any notcieable difference in gas mileage, braking, acceleration?

personally i am a 17" or max 18" guy but whatever you like

faster Type R

WOW looks like you raised your car....

well on to your topic...im not sure if you can go lower without negative camber...do you have a camber kit? what size offset are you running and tire size?

20strong

The ride is bumpy. I honestly could not tell any differance in acceleration or braking. I am not sure how much they weigh though, because the information I was given when I purchased them has to be wrong.
They are 20/7.5 +45 with a 225/35-20 tire. I do not have a camber kit. Will it offer enough adjustability to get rid of the negative camber? Would shortened control arms help. Should I get a adjustable shock?

20strong

Oh yeah I didnt lift it. The overall tire size is almost 3in. taller.

barroomhero

with rims that big you have to worry about clearance on the inside of the wheel too, rubbing on control arms/ suspension parts.

with a camber kit you can get lower by tucking the top of the wheel inward by increasing negative camber, but it sounds like you want no negative camber?
i have a feeling there will be rubbing issues either way if u choose to lower it, so id get something adjustable so oyou can get it as low as possible without rubbing.

20strong

Thanks ^ I have ashit load of clearance on the rear inside the wheel well. In the front the only thing it comes close to is the plastic liner. Is there a lower control arm in the rear? So I could pull the bottom of the tire in a bit?

bbRedSi

i may be wrong, but you have to rub if you lower on 20's. while browsing i always see random posts about people with 17x8's or 18x7.5's that rub on certain drops. being 7.5 wide, but 20's i just dont see in my mind how they wont rub. but for your sake i hope i am wrong. car looks a little odd now, but i think will look a lot better will it lowered a little bit. good luck tho!

20strong

Thanks. I am still beating my head against the wall trying to figure it out. I will get it dropped properly somehow though.

20strong

This one shows the gap better.

i-VTEC_DOHC

not to be mean.. by why 20's?? especially on a civic si?

"Ridge"Racer

why would you get 20s for the si, just my opinion but it doesnt look right, not to mention you are most likely going to have issues with your suspension,camber, rubbing. you should get some smaller rims that compliment the car. take it or leave it, just my opinion.

SMoLiK

You have really big nostrils... No wait, those are rims...

But anyhow, plasma torches work wonders... Plus rolled fenders...

SMo'

20strong

At the moment I have no issues what so ever. The reason I have 20's is because I like it and it is different. I am trying to figure out though how I can lower it and continue to have no issues. Rolled fenders, are you refering to the baseball bat method?

SMoLiK

Yea' but using a baseball bat is an unprofessional way of doing it...

SMo'

huevosrancheros

This sort of thing makes baby jesus cry.

The car looks like a DONK! Well to each his own.

Good luck.

faster Type R

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i know

hondamanforlife

gee! it looks just a little wrong. I think later on your going to run into some issues but all can be fixed. good luck

HondaF1Fanatic

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Legally you have to report this to the DMV so they can report your odometer as being inaccurate. Not doing so would constitute odometer fraud. As is, your odometer shows 6.4% lower mileage than your car actually has.

Jon

HondaF1Fanatic

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The car looks like a DONK! Well to each his own.

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Actually, God kills a kitten every time he sees a Civic on 20s. Not to mention the fact that they will slow acceleration, lengthen braking distances and increase suspension and brake wear. Oh, and running them and not reporting it to the DMV is a crime.

Jon

20strong

Thanks for letting me know about the whole DMV thing but its already been taking care of. The guy at the tire shop informed me of the odo reading being inaccurate because of the difference in overall diameter. My speedo is also off and it grows exponentially as speed grows.
Is there any solution to my lowering problem?

20strong

Hey wait that raises another question. I have not been able to find a solution to the speedo reading inacuratly. Would anybody have a solution to this?

COMplex.

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Stop being silly and get rid of the dumb *** 20's.

Without serious negative camber, and even smaller tires, I doubt it will work the way you want it to.

I'd almost suggest getting some 205's and stretching the tire over the rim, and then adding negative camber if you want to tuck. You've already tossed any performance value as far as acceleration, braking, and handling are concerned, so it doesn't really matter at this point how much negative camber and tires you have.

I don't know what posesses you to have such hideous wheels on your car, but whatever. The least you could have done was get good looking 20's instead of just plain ugly 20's. Oh well, good luck in your craptacular adventure.

20strong

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Stop being silly and get rid of the dumb *** 20's.

Without serious negative camber, and even smaller tires, I doubt it will work the way you want it to.

I'd almost suggest getting some 205's and stretching the tire over the rim, and then adding negative camber if you want to tuck. You've already tossed any performance value as far as acceleration, braking, and handling are concerned, so it doesn't really matter at this point how much negative camber and tires you have.

I don't know what posesses you to have such hideous wheels on your car, but whatever. The least you could have done was get good looking 20's instead of just plain ugly 20's. Oh well, good luck in your craptacular adventure.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thanks for the insiteful advice. I like my wheels, I like the way my car looks, Oh and I dont care if you dont like it. I have been very objective to the fact that you all seem to hate my car because it isnt what you would do, so there is no reason for you to be nasty about it.
I am not trying to drag frame here I would however like to drop it like 2 inches. That will require me to tuck just the top 1 1/2" of the tire under the fender well. Will this resault in to much negative camber. I am not so much worried about performance but more to the wear and tear on my tires if there is to much negative camber.
So instead of bashing me cause I like something differant than you provide a thoughtful insite to a possible solution.

anavrin351

special made fenders that flare out more, then a big *** spacer. Or one of those kits that people put on their cars that move the tires away from the cars then put 12" gold rims on it with the custom made fenders. Expensive, but it can be done.

And NO im not trying to be an ***. im serious. i always get **** for having 17s on an old civic, and i no how frusterating these peoples retarded *** coments can be. They dont like anything unless its "in"