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Rock Meathammer

I have Goodyear Assurance triple tread on my Jaguar. Excellent tire imo. I had GY Eagle RSA's and spun out on the offramp twice when it was wet. This was with about 9/32nds of tread left too. The assurances can get spendy, but I worked for a Goodyear store, so they were reasonable for me.

eMpAtHy

look into this tire: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/...ition

from what i've gotten out of our tire section on HT, it's one of the best tires and for just 84 dollars, i think it's pretty cheap.

the goodyear assurance triple tread also got rated #1 for all season tires on tirerack.

the yokohama's that you were talking about also got rated really high. check out: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testSearch.jsp

MonkeyMagic

not bad

look into toyo. best performance, wear, etc per dollar hands down

eMpAtHy

i've heard mediocre things about toyo at best.

Presto800

I've never had a bad experience with any set of tires I've bought

Toyo proxies are great but expensive, and sort of the iPod of tires when you walk into Les Schwab.

This time around I went for the cheaper Kumho Ecsta's and they're great. They grip fine, and do good in sun and rain.

Word of advice, buy online and try and get them mounted/balanced yourself. I literally saved 180$ doing that.

stock97

Go with what you know.

I have the Yoko AVID H4S's on my car and would buy them again in a heartbeat. Probably the best tire I've bought yet.

Also I had Discount Tire price match Tirerack.com's prices so I got the best of both worlds, tires on the cheap and same day installation.

OP what kind of car does your mom drive?

eMpAtHy

they charge 20 dollars to mount/balance per tire :\ that is a bit pricey compared to what i can get in my area.

__oversea

00 honda accord, nothing fancy. i just want her to have safe tires ( we have lots of rain, and somewhat tiny snow/ice).

Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS Pole Position seems tiny bit better than AVID H4S, but i never ordered tires from anywhere else other than website i posted(great service) and i dont wanna pay shipping

and yes, i can mount/balance myself.

TurboEM1

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ask nsxtasy

stevieteg

Yeah, the Falken 912's are horrible. They are supposed to be all season but they can't even handle rain let alone snow and their dry performance isn't anything to write home about either.

The BF goodridge T/A line of tires were always pretty good for me. I've used both the Traction T/A's and the Touring T/A's with with no complaints for all season use.

stock97

When I had them price match they took the total I would have paid at Tirerack with the shipping and sold them to me for that price. Including mounting/road hazard.

I win!

89efDUSTY

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Kumho Ecstas are great

Presto800

Dirt cheap too

hometheaterman

Toyo's. Best tire I've run hands down. The only reason I don't run them now is that I got a super great deal on tires for the 96 when I needed them. The first set was a free set of Michelins with 95% tread and the others were Falkiens that I got all 4 for the price of 2 Toyo's. I couldn't pass that up. I plan to put Toyo's on it next. The Chevy is about due for some tires which I'm also planning to go with Toyo's as well as when the 06 needs new tires. I've run several different brands and like the Falkiens 2nd best but the Toyo's are the best I've run.

ZylexSNL

while i have not tried the ziex 912s (and don't plan on it), i've been using the ziex 512s ever since they came out, on both my legend and civic.
i drive 25k+ miles every year, and i have zero complaints with them.

i love them and consider them the best tires i've ever used, which is why i've been through so many sets over the last ~8 years.
i once put 63k on a set of V-rated and still had a little more than 3/32s tread on them, and i'm not nice to tires.

they do well in rain & snow for an all-season for me -- i've never spun out or been stuck in the snow, and i once drove from MD to ME in pouring down rain the whole way and never planed at all.

as a footnote, prior to the 512s coming to the market, i had used the 502s...
those weren't so great in rain or snow...

Leo C

These are going to your best bang-for-the-buck. The Pole-Positions mentioned earlier are very close in performance, not worth the price jump. Toyos are garbage and Les Schwab is wack. Any tire cheaper than the Ecsta ASX, and many that are pricier, are going to perform significantly less well.

If you wanted to spend 2-3 times the cost of the ASX, you could snag some Pzero Nero M+S or Goodyear Eagle all-seasons, again for a very incremental performance gain. But I really doubt that's needed in your personal situation. I have had the Ecsta ASX in 225/45/17 and AST in 205/50/15 and both were the best all-seasons for the money. In fact the ASX have better dry traction than quite a few summer tires.

Ecsta ASX
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UCLA.lion

avoid discount tire and go to American Tire where they charge only $10/tire. It's odd that they are part of the same company but have different pricing.

jdm_dc_fan

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nsxtasy

First of all, you don't need all-season tires for wet weather. All-season tires are named that because they have the flexibility to deal with COLD weather, i.e. snow and ice and frigid temperatures. In exchange for that flexibility, they don't perform as well in moderate to warm temperatures as summer tires. Summer tires don't do well in extreme cold, but most summer tires do very well in rain, better than all-seasons. So from a performance standpoint, if you live in a place where it never snows, you're better off with summer tires. One other advantage of all-season tires over summer tires is that all-seasons usually last longer, which is why they're often used in warm-weather areas on daily driving type cars which don't put a premium on performance.

Also, some people are recommending brands (Toyos) or names (Kumho Ecsta) that apply to a whole bunch of tires. Every brand (and even names like Goodyear Eagle or Bridgestone Potenza) makes a whole lot of different tires - some of which offer very good performance, some of which offer low prices, and basically, some of which are good tires and some of which aren't. So make sure you're looking at specific tires.

For more general information about tires, see the Tire Rack website as well as the FAQ topic stickied at the top of the Wheel and Tire forum.

Now, getting back to your question, about all-season tires. Yes, the Falken Ziex ZE-912, and its ZE-512 predecessor, is not very good; its main attraction is a low purchase price.

Here are some of the very best all-season tires you can buy:

Avon Tech M550 A/S
BFGoodrich g-Force Super Sport A/S
Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS Pole Position
Goodyear Eagle F1 All Season
Kumho Ecsta ASX
Michelin Pilot Sport A/S
Pirelli PZero Nero M&S
Yokohama ADVAN S.4

These are the tires I most frequently recommend to people who are buying all-seasons. (Disclaimer: I do not work in the tire or automotive business.) Among this group, I most frequently recommend the Kumho ASX because it's usually priced significantly less than the others, but all of these are good choices, if you need all-season tires. Of course, you will be limited to which of these is available in the size you need.

skylinetph26

I would check the Kuhmo ASX like many have stated. I had that tire on my 00' Civic Si, it was the best bang for buck tire I have ever had. I will be replacing my aging snow tires on my Saab with the ASX next spring.

OneCamJam

I've had some of the previously mentioned tires:

Kumho ASX
Kumho Ecsta
Bridgestone Potenza RE960 PP

The ASX had great dry traction but I found they liked to follow cracks in the road... it wasn't my alignment b/c I changed to regular Ecstas and it went away.

Out of the three I liked the Bridgestones the best as far as daily use. Great wet weather traction/rode pretty comfy. Also the most expensive though.

I always get my tires from discounttiredirect, I wait for a special usually.


Modified by OneCamJam at 8:05 AM 11/15/2008

DaveSi677

The Kumho Ecsta have many different models just to let you know so you are not really helping with just putting it there...

To the OP, I would go with the Kumho ASX as Nsxtasy said... They are great for the price!!!

nsxtasy

Compare the bottom line cost including shipping, sales tax, and installation (mounting/balancing).

Tire Rack charges extra for shipping but does not charge sales tax in most states. You still have to pay for mounting/balancing locally.

Discount Tire Direct offers free shipping and does not charge sales tax in most states. You still have to pay for mounting/balancing locally. Their prices are usually higher than Tire Rack but they're usually pretty close after you adjust for shipping, which typically costs $10-14 per tire at the Tire Rack.

Local dealers charge sales tax but do not charge shipping. They may or may not charge for mounting/balancing. They may or may not be able to match the same bottom line as the discount internet dealers charge.

America's Tire and Discount Tire are local retail dealers; they are the same company as Discount Tire Direct, their mail-order division.

OneCamJam

Alright... the ones I was referring to were Kumho Ecsta 711.

They were so mediocre that I didn't bother commenting on them lol