DDTECH

I dont care to look "flush."

I need something that can put my power to the ground, be light, cheap.

I'm looking to run 215's at least.. i was looking @ rota's, but i figured this forum would have more experince with wheels..

Was looking @ blades but really can't find any.. so lemme know.

toyomatt84

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You can't find "blades"? Hmm, they're pretty common on the used market up here.

Anyways, you'll want to be more specific, bud.
- What's your budget looking like?
- What kind of driving will you be doing?
- Will these wheels see daily use, as well as track use?
- What model Honda/Acura is this for? (ex. '01 Civic EX coupe)
- Have you done any body, suspension, brake modification? (This will effect fitment/clearance.)

DDTECH

Its a daily driven race car... eg hatch.. 4x100s..cheap.

Natural Aspirations

XXR 522 AND 205 NEOGENS

toyomatt84

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Well, the terms "daily driven" and "race car" are typically not synonymous terms one uses to describe a vehicle, due to the fact that "race cars" see abuse above the call of standard "daily driven" cars and if broken they would negate the "daily driven" status. Also, unless the car was imported, you don't own an EG hatch in the United States. This may be a bit pedantic, but model versions do play a significant role in brake clearance and tire sizing for the 5th Generation Civic hatchbacks. You also did not mention whether or not there has been any modifications to the car, to alter wheel/tire fitment.

But, if I were to ignore these nuances with your response, I would suggest looking in to offerings like the following:
Enkei RPF1 - 15x7 (both +35 and +41 offsets should clear, depending on some statistics not provided)
Enkei Classic 92 - 15x7 +38
Enkei Classic J-Speed - 15x7 +38
949 Racing 6UL - 15x7 +36
Kosei K1 - 15x7 +38
Kosei K1 TS - 15x7 +38
O.Z. Ultraleggera - 15x7 +37
TR Motorsports C1M - 15x7 +25 (will require small amount of negative camber, if there has been no body modifications for wheel/tire clearance)

Also, you'll want to note that there are not any 215-treadwidth 15"-height tires that will fit a basic 5th Gen. Civic hatchback within a 1% margin of the original diameter (can make the car unsafe). Venturing past the 3% margin can be extremely dangerous for a car that sees track time.

DDTECH

..Dear lord.. Dude, its a "race" car... thats daily driven. obviously there's serious suspension on this car.. its my shops AMP car... just was throwing feelers out there for good wheels that can fit the tires i need so i can daily drive it.

Natural Aspirations

Wheel and Tire forum is serious business.... As an FYI

XXR's can be had for ~ 300 a set, my next cheap choice would be the TRM wheels from tire rack at ~ 360.

toyomatt84

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Well, "serious suspension" doesn't tell anyone how low the car sits, what kind of camber settings you have, or anything really. It's about as descriptive as the term "race car". There are stock-series races, bud.

Not to be rude, but you did ask a technical question in a technical forum. The point of this forum is accuracy, safety, and information. So, I was just trying to extrapolate as much information as needed to provide a proper, informed response.

DDTECH

skunk2 proc's i have around 2 degrees of neg camber in the front, sitting straight in the back, ..looking for a 15inch wheel that can hold a 215 @ LEAST.

its a 95 civic CX, eg6 whatever you wanna call it, its a ****en EG.

toyomatt84

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I mentioned previously wheels that will fit the car and support a 215 treadwidth tire that can fit your car, as well as survive the beatings that both daily driving and track time can do. They are also more on the economical side of wheel pricing, as you requested.


Well, it's not an EG6 or an EG at all. It's an EH2. It's in the VIN number, as well.

Natural Aspirations

Not familiar with any 215 width tires that will fit a civic.

Educate yourself on what with is required to fit a "215", look at what the tire manufacturer recommends. Start by trying to find a 215 tire...... Once you haven't found any (decent) 215's, try talking the advise some of these guys are trying to give to you.

I had an informative suggestion but we know where younwent with that.

legendrida

go rotas for fresh look, keep oem for daily driven

Natural Aspirations

Ok I'm bored so I'm going to bust your ***** a little more here, but hope to also help you understand a little more. Rocket style...

Can you explain to me why a "215" would be a better choice than let's say a 195 of the same theoretical diameter?

DDTECH

shut up NA.. lmao.. kids thinking i'm some type of newbie around here.

i'ma bust your *****. - More surface contact = more traction.. my car is slammed, and i will be raising it back up a tad because i dont want my 900 dollar header being dented.. but, i just wanted something lik RT615's on my daily driver.

Natural Aspirations

That is debatable...

What you won't get is more tire on the road, (within reason) no matter how wide you go your contact patch remains the same size but changes ________.

DDTECH

my camber, and toe effect the amount of tire that hits the ground..but anyway, i was just seeing if there was a wheel that was light, and could fit a 215.. i had 16''s a year ago and had rt615s on there and i liked those tires.. they lasted a pretty good bit and were able to put my power to the ground.. with that said.. i'll just look myself.

Natural Aspirations

The answer is completely independent of camber, and Toe has ZERO to do with amount of contact patch.

This is a good discussion don't run away someone may learn something useful.

toyomatt84

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Width doesn't always generate more surface area. As the car isn't gaining weight, there is a limit to where having a wider tire will not benefit you (without aerodynamic modifications, of course).

Very simple drawing:

|- -X dimension - -|
________________
| - Contact Patch - | - Y dimension
¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
To maintain the same "Y" dimension of your contact patch as you increase the "X" dimension, you would have to increase downforce on the tire. That's just a simple physics lesson on displacement.

Natural Aspirations

I was hoping All-Motor would get this......

But yes a wider tire does not give you more contact patch, friction on a similar surface is dependent on weight or applied pressure

First Law of Friction
Friction between two surfaces is proportional to the force pressing one to the other.

Second Law of Friction
Friction is independent of the contact area.

HarosGSRek

lol, most people would