debogsr

yeah man stay with it. It will be worth it.

Chronicsinners

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i know he does mention it like he wants to casually do it. I will let you know to suceed at penn you need to be extremely gung-ho and even still you might be forced to drop out. No offense but uPenn is the handsdown best school in PA and we got alot of them..

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by debogsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah man stay with it. It will be worth it. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yea like a couple guys above said, if it wasnt hard everyone would be an engineer.

Sidenote, i got my first job offer a couple days ago and turned it down (&lt;50k)

TheBandit

I am just now finishing my 3yr program in Machining and will be attending Oklahoma State this fall. I had planned on getting in ME and will definatly be apart of their FSAE team. Now reading all this, I'm starting to think that ME might not be exactly what I want to do. I love making things and really love R&D. I am very mechanically inclined and have a decent amount of fabrication experience. Is there something out there more suited for me than ME, or did I just get the wrong idea from the posts?
Thanks
-Michael-

.dave

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TheBandit &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am just now finishing my 3yr program in Machining and will be attending Oklahoma State this fall. I had planned on getting in ME and will definatly be apart of their FSAE team. Now reading all this, I'm starting to think that ME might not be exactly what I want to do. I love making things and really love R&D. I am very mechanically inclined and have a decent amount of fabrication experience. Is there something out there more suited for me than ME, or did I just get the wrong idea from the posts?
Thanks
-Michael-</TD></TR></TABLE>

Mechanical Engineering Technology is much more hands on and less of the theory that you get in a regular engineering program. More and more schools are starting to offer MET programs.

R&D = at least Master's degree, usually Ph.D. though.

Professor15

wow back from the dead....is it worth it to take a co-op program even though your going to graduate later but still have a bs? anybody got expierence with co-op programs?

drumking15

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i havent in mech yet...but ill tell you one thing beofre i switch to mech from civil...anything is better than nothing...i got me a job over 3 other guys because i had work expereince when i took a year off from school... so yes work expereince i find to always be good...it just makes your more marketable...but then again graduate earlier...and make the real pay instead of co-op pay...would be better finically...its really just personal preference i guess

Chronicsinners

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the jury isnt back on me, i will graduate in june and i have completed (3) 6 month co-op's. I have been on many interviews, recieved 1 offer, and overall feel more competent to enter the job market than engineering Friends that have gone to other schools. We will soon see

Professor15

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the jury isnt back on me, i will graduate in june and i have completed (3) 6 month co-op's. I have been on many interviews, recieved 1 offer, and overall feel more competent to enter the job market than engineering Friends that have gone to other schools. We will soon see</TD></TR></TABLE> thanks for the info guys.

congrats on graduating, how much was your first job offer if you dont mind me asking?

The Birdman

I like this thread, very informative, big

Chronicsinners

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yea im glad i saw it.

btw another interview next week for me

stevieteg

Good thread

ME is extremely hard. I switched to MET and so far I am happy with the switch. The stuff you guys are saying about the ASE programs is intresting. I'm going to definately have to get some info about it.

usdm97DC4

this is a great thread! im glad i came across it! subcribed!

i will be going after ME when i attend college. im a senior in high school currently

snoochtodanooch

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the jury isnt back on me, i will graduate in june and i have completed (3) 6 month co-op's. I have been on many interviews, recieved 1 offer, and overall feel more competent to enter the job market than engineering Friends that have gone to other schools. We will soon see</TD></TR></TABLE>

Are you at Drexel?

BUJonathan

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If you can afford the extra year, then doing a Co-Op is a great idea. Besides, its not like you're paying for 5 years of college. You're paying for 4 years stretched out over 5. You'll get more work experience, which makes you more marketible. That means more job offers.

snoochtodanooch

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If you can afford the extra year, then doing a Co-Op is a great idea. Besides, its not like you're paying for 5 years of college. You're paying for 4 years stretched out over 5. You'll get more work experience, which makes you more marketible. That means more job offers.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's incorrect. At many schools you are paying for 5 years. I go to Drexel, and during the co-op portion of the year we are still paying full tuition.

.dave

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Thats retarded. Why the hell do they charge you when you're co-oping?

Sucks you're paying for 5 years, I'm paying 4 1/3 years (quarter system) for two degrees in 5 years.

BUJonathan

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That's incorrect. At many schools you are paying for 5 years. I go to Drexel, and during the co-op portion of the year we are still paying full tuition. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Then you're getting ripped off, and as students, you should voice this to the school administration.

I Co-Oped between 2002 - 2004 for 3 semesters. My school charged me $0 while Co-Oping, and I maintained full active student status. Students at other schools that I Co-Oped with either paid nothing, or a few hundred dollars. Any fees/tuition for Co-Oping that students WERE charged, was picked up by the Company I worked for.

Seriously, if I were in your situation, I'd be raising the issue with school administration. They either have no interest in encouraging you to further your skills, or are looking to maximize the money they can make off students.

Your situation is not representitive of most schools.

Jonathan

Chronicsinners

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Seriously, if I were in your situation, I'd be raising the issue with school administration. They either have no interest in encouraging you to further your skills, or are looking to maximize the money they can make off students.

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Yeah that goes no where... Drexel doesnt care, if you dont like it leave, is thier mentality. They have the reputation that people will pay it anyway. I know i did, and it wasnt cheap. But now after i got my first offer, and other job prospects it was well worth it. I am extremely marketable and will hit the ground running when i do start at a job.

javenger

a lot of engineering students drop out/ switch up the first year. it's to weed out the field.

i'm graduating in may with my ME degree. i honestly have to say, the past 5 years have sucked ***. yes, 5 years to do a 4 year degree. it's a very hard major. it was not possible for me to take a "full load" 18 credit hours, each semester. i also worked part time to support my hobbies.

a very large amount of engineers really don't engineer. they manage, with in the first 5 years of your engineering career, you will obtain a manager position. until then, you will just punch a bunch of numbers. they usually get the newly graduates to do that, because they still remember how to do all the calculations. and still you just use programs to do the calculations.
but that is just a little bit of my thoughts.

you can do a lot with a Mechanical Engineering degree, and i mean a lot. you can get a job anywhere you want; a machine shop; to working with civil engineers doing HVAC design and load designs for structural; sales, selling anything that has been engineered, to working for a chain saw company being a line manager.

Nature's Renewal

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a very large amount of engineers really don't engineer. they manage, with in the first 5 years of your engineering career, you will obtain a manager position. until then, you will just punch a bunch of numbers. they usually get the newly graduates to do that, because they still remember how to do all the calculations. and still you just use programs to do the calculations.
but that is just a little bit of my thoughts.

you can do a lot with a Mechanical Engineering degree, and i mean a lot. you can get a job anywhere you want; a machine shop; to working with civil engineers doing HVAC design and load designs for structural; sales, selling anything that has been engineered, to working for a chain saw company being a line manager.

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Funny you mentioned that, my roommate graduated with a civil engineering degree and works as a manager for the new Bay Bridge being built. The other managers he works with have different types of engineering background. He actually does alot of manual labor and paperwork. I don't hear about much actual engineering problems.

snoochtodanooch

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you can do a lot with a Mechanical Engineering degree, and i mean a lot. you can get a job anywhere you want; a machine shop; to working with civil engineers doing HVAC design and load designs for structural; sales, selling anything that has been engineered, to working for a chain saw company being a line manager.

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I will also back this up. This is one of the main reasons I chose MEM, you have such a wide range of experiences you can go just about anywhere and do anything. I think alot of kids pin themselves in when they say that they are a civil, architectural, biomedical, or chemical engineer. You end up cramming yourself into some pretty competitive and tight fields, and in reality mechanical engineers have big parts in those fields anyway.

The one thing I can say that you may not want to do in engineering, is work at a rush and go "engineering firm." I just got done my first co-op, 2nd engineering job, at a place like that. It is ******* insanity, and not fulfilling work.

See all of the largescale power production companies, and even power service companies like ConEdison, Exelon, all sub out their revisions to drawings and new service to their buildings like HVAC, compressor, or steam installations. So it comes to a company like where i work with like less than a week turnaround time. It's hard trying to make everything work right the first time in less than a week, with a TON of constraints on what you are allowed to do, which change with every company/division/state.

But I do hear working in the Nuclear plants is kind of interesting, with an eerie feeling in the whole place. I saved my places *** last week because they had to get out all of these drawings for a cooling torus in a nuclear facility here in jersey. The NRC was making a visit and they didn't have the drawings in order, so it was a 3 day panic to make 30 drawings of corrosion sections in the torus. Not fun.

Motorhead_AZ

^^ Wow. That doesn't sound fun at all. But sometimes you function most efficiently under high load/stress. At least that's the case for me.

For those who are interested in studying MAE, here's a good link for you. Check it out: http://www.fulton.asu.edu/mae/...2.php

drewbie

Get ready for calculas and lots of studying. and lots of calculas. with chinese teachers that barely speak english.

That was my experience...so I changed majors.

Good Luck and best wishes for great success!!!!

SkRiBLaH

up for more insight.

Motorhead_AZ

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That was my experience...so I changed majors. </TD></TR></TABLE>

You changed your major too quick, but I'm sure this change was to your benefit. Whatever field of study you chose, remember, college isn't about being taught. It's about learning. There are no "teachers" in a college/university to "teach" you the material. There are professors and they don't "teach"; they give lectures. Sometimes you understand the lecture, some times you don't. It's up to you to take time and learn the material on your own. Many people enter college with the high school mentality and get shocked!