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Old 12-03-2008, 07:14 PM
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Default recent pics at work, typeR in a mini, with a gt2871r intercooled

im currently building a mini austin. ill let the pics talk for themselves, obviously the room is very tight, and the car is not done yet, some ideas may change, but basicly this is the setup! the car was not extended, its all original in size.

everything fits realy tight, and there is les than half an inch of room in front of the turbo and the grill.

i saw a few of these builds on youtube. should be fun to see what it does when its all done.

btw, the front clip is made by a company i believe the name is superfastmini.com came with the big brakes, axles, coilovers, ect. things didnt fit as easy as it looks, but over all a fun kit to work with!

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That's awsome!! Can't wait for the finished product.
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Looks cool, but any reason your sticking a log manifold on that setup ? Space an issue ?
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Originally Posted by 90blackcrx
Space an issue ?

ROFL. seriously?
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Not sure how I feel about that tiny end tank.
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I would have loved to make a manifold with better flow than a log style, but space was a huge issue. I have less than an inch clearence in front and on top of the manifold once the hood is closed, it's amazing it even fit

And for the end tank I assume your talking about the intercoolers loop side, I hope it won't be an issue, but I don't think so because the core is 3 " so it's wider than the 2.5" out, I hope that makes sence, but wtv LOL
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Originally Posted by mtlmotorsport


Looks like a really fun build!!
I'm a little skeptical that this engine mount bracket is going to hold up due to both the bracket size itself and the welding/tube wall thickness?/lack of gusset/missing front mount. But I may be overestimating the forces being put on the mount.

Good luck!
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I've seen a bunch of these builds before and they look like a ****ing blast to drive. I think thats the first I've ever seen with the taller block though, I've only ever seen them with b16s
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that thing is so freakin awsome! I love it dude! Please continue to post pix of this project!!!
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Originally Posted by Andy R
Looks like a really fun build!!
I'm a little skeptical that this engine mount bracket is going to hold up due to both the bracket size itself and the welding/tube wall thickness?/lack of gusset/missing front mount. But I may be overestimating the forces being put on the mount.

Good luck!

That mount will be fine. The torque of the engine is mostly transmitted through the rear mount, and the uppers are primarily for support.
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Originally Posted by Evs-One
That mount will be fine. The torque of the engine is mostly transmitted through the rear mount, and the uppers are primarily for support.
Thanks for the bit of info, I think I usually tend to want to over strengthen brackets/joints for some reason.

I think I may have added a few unnnecessary tubes in my last crx 8-point cage
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looks solid. Is there a place your getting information to do this? or is it pretty straight forward?
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Looks awesome!
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Hey, work looks good! Is MTLMotorsport a new shop in the MTL area? Never heard of it before.

Good work! A turbo type-r must be sick in a little car like that!
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ive only seen those with the b16, i bet its gonna be fun to drive once is done.....
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Originally Posted by Agtronic
Hey, work looks good! Is MTLMotorsport a new shop in the MTL area? Never heard of it before.

Good work! A turbo type-r must be sick in a little car like that!
no, acualy mtlmotorsport is a nick name ive used since i was a kid,

but i do co-own the shop and its called tdc motorsport. were mainly in the honda/nissan croud, and we run the "dmcc" kumho drift team in montreal.

btw, thanks for the replies guys! im gonna put some more work into it monday, should have some more pics soon.
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Nice work. My buddy did a D16Z6 in his mini with DX trany and it was still to short lol.

What tranny you got in there?
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Oh you probly know him adam in mtl with the green mini he has the busa motor in the rear now.
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I want one.


Great work. Fabrication looks good. Keep the pics coming.
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given you some props on your beads man. very nice. im a welder/fabricater myself!

also, thats awesome you dropped that whole set up on the copper, that thing will rip like no other!!!

thanks, Casey
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Now thats what I'm talking about!!! I've seen so many builds with the "B" series motor but none turbocharged. I was hoping to do the same but could'nt find a shell for a decent price.

More here
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Originally Posted by mtlmotorsport
I would have loved to make a manifold with better flow than a log style, but space was a huge issue. I have less than an inch clearence in front and on top of the manifold once the hood is closed, it's amazing it even fit

And for the end tank I assume your talking about the intercoolers loop side, I hope it won't be an issue, but I don't think so because the core is 3 " so it's wider than the 2.5" out, I hope that makes sence, but wtv LOL
The intercooler design is not ideal, but the inefficiencies may be acceptable to you for this project. Running the air back through the core is effectively give you a longer, but skinnier core. This can help make it easier to evenly distribute air across the core because you have fewer rows to spread out from a 2.5" inlet, but with the added pressure loss and the loss associated with the TIGHT 180 degree turn at the far end endtank. If your stuck with the dual pass approach due to space constraints, you could improve upon this design be making the inlet and outlet tubes meet the end tank with a radius rather than the abrupt angle change where eddies can form. Also, the far side end tank could be larger to allow a more gradual 180 curve and some guide vaines to help evenly distribute the air around that corner.

Here is a decent document with some fluid dynamic concepts applied to intercooler design:

http://www.dvdtfab.com/intercoolertestlab.pdf

I've also attached a image of what the flow might look like through design similar to yours.
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Originally Posted by Andy R
The intercooler design is not ideal, but the inefficiencies may be acceptable to you for this project. Running the air back through the core is effectively give you a longer, but skinnier core. This can help make it easier to evenly distribute air across the core because you have fewer rows to spread out from a 2.5" inlet, but with the added pressure loss and the loss associated with the TIGHT 180 degree turn at the far end endtank. If your stuck with the dual pass approach due to space constraints, you could improve upon this design be making the inlet and outlet tubes meet the end tank with a radius rather than the abrupt angle change where eddies can form. Also, the far side end tank could be larger to allow a more gradual 180 curve and some guide vaines to help evenly distribute the air around that corner.

Here is a decent document with some fluid dynamic concepts applied to intercooler design:

http://www.dvdtfab.com/intercoolertestlab.pdf

I've also attached a image of what the flow might look like through design similar to yours.
thanks man, very interesting stuff, i think im gonna try to make an intercooler with curved plates in the loop side the next time i do a cooler like this. should be nice to see, and maybe ill do a swap on the dyno with a k20 setup i have in mid to see acual power differences. ill pm you when i do it.

btw, thanks again for all the posts
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Originally Posted by JDMCRX
Oh you probly know him adam in mtl with the green mini he has the busa motor in the rear now.
i heared of that car, if im correct, one of my friends did some work on that car,... Tom from tk-racehaeds. i think he worked on the busa motor, or maybe im wrong, but he talks about him often.
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Originally Posted by mtlmotorsport
thanks man, very interesting stuff, i think im gonna try to make an intercooler with curved plates in the loop side the next time i do a cooler like this. should be nice to see, and maybe ill do a swap on the dyno with a k20 setup i have in mid to see acual power differences. ill pm you when i do it.

btw, thanks again for all the posts
I personally am a DIY kinda guy and mainly just do projects for myself, so I don't have a lot of the learning experiences some of the other fabricators do on this forum that build stuff on a daily basis. But I do like to search the read the internet and have picked up some things along the way. I built a intercooler for myself about 2 years ago, and designed it with the philosophy of shorter but more rows, based on some info I had gathered on the web. Looking back at the design, I see room for improvement on the execution, but thats usually the process with gaining experience.

Here are a few pics of the IC. On the intake side I have a single guide vain to help distribute flow to the farther away set of rows. Things I would change are to do some metal work to mold the circular inlet tube nicely into the end tanks at both ends. And a little more volume in the end tanks (specifically I think it gets a little too shallow at the ends), and possibly some more guide vaines.







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