Opening my very own shop, need some help.
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Re: Opening my very own shop, need some help.
Say there were a build-off, who would do the tuning?
I wish I knew how to do all the stuff you're putting out... Keep it up, d16sandrail!!!
What car do you have, redboost10?
I wish I knew how to do all the stuff you're putting out... Keep it up, d16sandrail!!!
What car do you have, redboost10?
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Re: Opening my very own shop, need some help.
i have a schwinn
i wanna see d16's setup. ive seen a couple pics of the intake and ive got in contact about him about it
what kinda car do you have kataku?
i wanna see d16's setup. ive seen a couple pics of the intake and ive got in contact about him about it
what kinda car do you have kataku?
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Re: dear John
now that i have read the **** you talk on this thread you sound like even more of an *** which makes me never want to take my work or any of my other friends to have anything dont by you. being a fabricator does not mean that you have to have every piece of machinary to get a job done. putting some one down because they can do mulitple things with one machine means that they have more thought into being able to adapt and still accomplish the same outcome with proven results...ie:intake manifolds. if you want to invest in flow machines thats your business but some one that can build something without a flow machine/meter menat that they have done there homework, all you do is hide behind a machine to do your work for you.... anyone can do that....d16sandrail is one of my friends and has many customers that safely can rely on him to put out a quality product that will have proven dyno results. until he fails at a design keep your mouth shut. and stick to your kind of quality work.
let me make a few things clear. I have not talked ****, I have given my experiences and offered relative information about owning a business. I have said the he has a knack for what he does. however there is more to owning a business than making manifolds and machining parts.
as far as needing proper machines to do work... really? show me how you can machine a part without a mill, or turn a part without a lathe, or weld a part without a welder... or cut a part without a saw etc. it takes tools to run a business, I was simply saying that it will cost a lot of money to open a business of the magnitude that he wants (offering so many different services) especially since he already said he doesn't have the equipment or money in the bank.
and once again I never said anything negative about his work,
but how can you sell a ported head to someone and not have any concrete information that what you've done will be the best? and having some experience with a flow bench does not mean that you have experience with all engines. I mainly say this because most head jobs are pointless anyway for the application. for the cost of porting a head my customers could make the same or more power with bigger cams, better tune, more boost, etc. it is not uncommon for a stock port honda cylinder head to be able to make waaay more power than any turbo customer I've ever had has wanted. id rather they save the money and put it into the fuel system or engine management.
like I said it about selling the best possible product you can. proper tools are a given when you own a shop.
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i started my own shop last yr at age 19, i had saved for 2 yrs, and still couldnt afford everything, i had fun but seriously its ALOT harder then just buying everything and waiting, and when bills start coming in and you have to hunt for extra pennys to pay them its a nightmare, it takes a toll on u. i wish the best of luck to you tho man
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a one stop shop ... something like a race prep shop ... that do everything and anything to a car ... race prep wise ...
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dear john,
i was not bashing your work or what you do but, all i was saying was that he adapts to what he has and it has proven it the on dyno results. i realize everything you say in your recent post, but keep in mind he is just getting his feet wet. Once he gets going he will be very successful.. hard work pays off as i am sure your well aware of your self.
i was not bashing your work or what you do but, all i was saying was that he adapts to what he has and it has proven it the on dyno results. i realize everything you say in your recent post, but keep in mind he is just getting his feet wet. Once he gets going he will be very successful.. hard work pays off as i am sure your well aware of your self.
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Hey, I just wanted to comment on something you said on page one. I don't own a shop like yours (I do internet sales...obviously), I do however know a thing or two about it as I have my OCP A-D machining certs, a 13x40 lathe, 3 axis Hurco CNC Knee mill (not running yet, deciding between fixing or a retrofit to a PC control), and a Chinese 200A AC/DC tig all in my garage. More fab equipment than most fab shops.
A tip for your shop, my friend pay $600 per month TOTAL for his shop (rent, utilities, etc.). Its got single phase 110/220 and is big enough to house his flow bench, some shelves, two cars and a CNC mill. Its in a storage unit. He basically added a wall and installed an air conditioner in the wall and he's set. He is a very good machinist, reasonably priced and really knows his ****. He too builds a certain motor and I know one of his customers holds some all motor records with parts and a motor that hes done. However he is not doing well business wise because he is not marketing himself correctly. Do not think that reputation is enough when you're trying to eat. You need to market yourself. Make a website put unique content and ideas on it, do SEO for that site (google it), go to car meets, do whatever you can to market yourself effectively.
Best of luck. I started my business because I didn't (still don't) want to work in college. I even called it "Put Me Through College Race Parts." About 6 months ago I finally figured out that hey if I'd market myself I could substantially increase my profit margins and sales and now that's what I am working towards. Last month I started working on my website, my sales are up 20% because of that.
A tip for your shop, my friend pay $600 per month TOTAL for his shop (rent, utilities, etc.). Its got single phase 110/220 and is big enough to house his flow bench, some shelves, two cars and a CNC mill. Its in a storage unit. He basically added a wall and installed an air conditioner in the wall and he's set. He is a very good machinist, reasonably priced and really knows his ****. He too builds a certain motor and I know one of his customers holds some all motor records with parts and a motor that hes done. However he is not doing well business wise because he is not marketing himself correctly. Do not think that reputation is enough when you're trying to eat. You need to market yourself. Make a website put unique content and ideas on it, do SEO for that site (google it), go to car meets, do whatever you can to market yourself effectively.
Best of luck. I started my business because I didn't (still don't) want to work in college. I even called it "Put Me Through College Race Parts." About 6 months ago I finally figured out that hey if I'd market myself I could substantially increase my profit margins and sales and now that's what I am working towards. Last month I started working on my website, my sales are up 20% because of that.
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