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Old 01-03-2012, 11:58 AM
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Interested in picking up a tig welder. I been playing around with my buddy 200 but honestly don't wanna spend $3k unless I really have to. I was looking into weld all type of products not just car parts but only wanna mess with metals such as. Ss, aluminum, and
Titanium. I understand these metals are hard to weld and take years. but this is just a hobby and will do this on my own time.
I was looking into the lincoln tig or picking up used 200. But would like to know what you guys think. It def has to be noobie friendly lol. I dont wanna a complicated juice box. What is a very good, noobie friendly, reasonable price tig that think best fits me?.......
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A lot of guys here use the Miller Diversion 165, and I'm one of them. Really easy, turn it on, select your amperage, select DC/AC, and weld. Great starter TIG, but you'll start wanting a bit more after about a year if you really get into it.
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A lot of guys here use the Miller Diversion 165, and I'm one of them. Really easy, turn it on, select your amperage, select DC/AC, and weld. Great starter TIG, but you'll start wanting a bit more after about a year if you really get into it.
thanks alot bro. when you moved up what did you move up to?..
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Default Re: Good beginners tig welder.....

I haven't moved up yet actually, the extra features will certainly be nice to have but since I don't do this on a professional level the Diversion more than handles anything that I need to do at home. The rest is just up to me lol.
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I haven't moved up yet actually, the extra features will certainly be nice to have but since I don't do this on a professional level the Diversion more than handles anything that I need to do at home. The rest is just up to me lol.
thanks bro. ima do a little more research this go from there. i know miller makes great products. but $1500 aint much so its a good chance i might just order this one.
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I would go for a maxstar instead of the diversion. Diversions kinda suck and none of the accesories will work on a dynasty when you decide that the diversion is a pos. otherwise i would look at thermal arc or esab welders if you want more features in the price range of the diversion.
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http://www.everlastgenerators.com/Po...o-3910-pd.html
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Dont buy that everlast crap.
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Used syncrowave 200 imo best starter machine
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Dont buy that everlast crap.

Snowtrooper said he is using his everlast 185 more than his dynasty
https://honda-tech.com/forums/welding-fabrication-53/havent-posted-while-finished-my-personal-car-2935359/
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Originally Posted by EJAYATE
I would go for a maxstar instead of the diversion. Diversions kinda suck and none of the accesories will work on a dynasty when you decide that the diversion is a pos. otherwise i would look at thermal arc or esab welders if you want more features in the price range of the diversion.
why is the diversion a piece of ****?

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Dont buy that everlast crap.
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Used syncrowave 200 imo best starter machine
thats what i really want but just dont wanna drop $3k for a product i dont know if i have time for
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Default Re: Good beginners tig welder.....

I've used my buddy's diversion a few times and I thought it was great for the price he paid for it. Seems like it would do everything that I would need a tig welder for, but then again I'm not hardcore into fabricating so take it for what it's worth.
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I've had great luck out of my used syncro 200. You can get them from 1-1.5k slightly used.

I do feel like you will be better off in the end with something like that. There can be advantages in a 2.5k used machine over a 1.5k new machine.

However I don't feel like you could go wrong with a new diversion 165 or 180 either. The consumables can be had very easily at your local welding supply store. Its a Miller so you can bet you will get years of trouble free service out of it. May have a decent warranty as well.

In the race fab industry, I can't think of much that you wont be able to do with it either. My syncro 200, I leave it on 150. It has a few features the diversion may not have like a removable torch, pulse, ac balance, etc. However those are features that most don't use, you can get by without and simply are not needed. My first tig, I didn't have all that, and I am thankful I learned with out it. Now that I have it, there are some decent benefits that I rarely use, welds close to the same.
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anyone have experience with the hobart tig165i? and does anyone know where its made?
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I learned to TIG in high school on a Precision 275, awesome machine and easy to use. Self contained water cooler, too.
I just bought a lincoln squarewave 255 now that I'm out of school, has a touch panel, 315amp capability, pulse, ac/dc. I paid $1200 for it, minus gas bottle/extensions/consumables.
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I've had great luck out of my used syncro 200. You can get them from 1-1.5k slightly used.

I do feel like you will be better off in the end with something like that. There can be advantages in a 2.5k used machine over a 1.5k new machine.

However I don't feel like you could go wrong with a new diversion 165 or 180 either. The consumables can be had very easily at your local welding supply store. Its a Miller so you can bet you will get years of trouble free service out of it. May have a decent warranty as well.

In the race fab industry, I can't think of much that you wont be able to do with it either. My syncro 200, I leave it on 150. It has a few features the diversion may not have like a removable torch, pulse, ac balance, etc. However those are featured that most don't use, you can get by without and simply are not needed. My first tig, I didn't have all that, and I am thankful I learned with out it. Now that I have it, there are some decent benefits that I rarely use, welds close to the same.
Thanks bro. if I can get a good used 200 for a good price I buy one. But can't find one. The div looks promising to.


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I learned to TIG in high school on a Precision 275, awesome machine and easy to use. Self contained water cooler, too.
I just bought a lincoln squarewave 255 now that I'm out of school, has a touch panel, 315amp capability, pulse, ac/dc. I paid $1200 for it, minus gas bottle/extensions/consumables.
Yea I when I went to pjd last year for a bike meet. They had a few of these in there shop. Even in the show they showed them
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Default Re: Good beginners tig welder.....

I am also looking into getting my first tig welder. For those who have the miller diversion 165 or 180. Has the welder ever overheated or acted up when welding for a good period of time?
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Eastwood Tig 200 220/110V 3yrs warranty and under $1k.


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Im sellin my diversion..

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Why are you selling it?
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The beauty of buying a miller welder is if you decide you dont like it you can easily sell it for pretty much the same price you bought it for.
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Im upgrading to a bigger machine. As a lot of people, i didnt know if i would catch on to it well or not. So this is a great welder to spend a lil bit of cash, and figure out whether its for you or not. Im glad i got it, because without experience welding its hard to judge what you want out of a machine. Probably getting an HTP 221.
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Default Re: Good beginners tig welder.....

Originally Posted by TannerS14
Im upgrading to a bigger machine. As a lot of people, i didnt know if i would catch on to it well or not. So this is a great welder to spend a lil bit of cash, and figure out whether its for you or not. Im glad i got it, because without experience welding its hard to judge what you want out of a machine. Probably getting an HTP 221.
This is the best advice in the world as far as tig welding goes...
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Just sold my diversion for $1100 and ordered the htp 221 yesterday. But as tanner said the diversion is a great starter for me but I've had mine for 2 years it's time to up grade.
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in the market for one to i dont have any shops around me lol what do you guys think of entry level miller dynasty?


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