Touge Tuning

Just looking through the weekly Canadiantire flyer and they have a MIG wire feed welder for $299.99 CDN which doesnt seem bad at all. My question is do you think this would be fine for welding mild steel piping (ie. Exhausts, manifolds, I/C piping etc). I have been wanting a simple/cost effective MIG welder and this might just be what im looking for but I wanna make sure it will actually do the jobs i would like to do. Basically the keys for me are portability, easy to use, use household 110-115V power source and be able to weld decent thickness metal.

Here is the little info it provides:
* 70 A wire-feed welder
* Infinite wire speed control
* High-efficiency transformer
* Includes wire-feed welder, gas regulator, gas hose, two hose clamps, welding shield, one spool of flux-core wire, hammer/brush, quick-start guide and instruction manual
* Uses MIG (gas) or flux-core (gasless) wires
* Heat selection dial with four settings

Clayton

iTrader: (1)

Do yourself a favour, and lok at the model that's one level up from there. It usually goes on sale for $499 or so. It's at least gas compliant,and will make your future much easier. Most folks on here are going to tell you to save up and buy a TIG, but the MIG that sells at CT isn't all that bad.

Clayton

Touge Tuning

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Clayton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Do yourself a favour, and lok at the model that's one level up from there. It usually goes on sale for $499 or so. It's at least gas compliant,and will make your future much easier. Most folks on here are going to tell you to save up and buy a TIG, but the MIG that sells at CT isn't all that bad.

Clayton</TD></TR></TABLE>

Doesnt the one I have listed above have the option to use Gas or Flux-core wire? There isnt any mastercraft welders on the CT site above this one unless ur talking about the Lincoln MIG Pak 10 or 15?

essex

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Stealth1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">MIG Pak 10 or 15? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats what he is talking about

Touge Tuning

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by essex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thats what he is talking about </TD></TR></TABLE>

The Pak 10 is $599 and the Pak 15 is $749 so they are both more than double the price and I was under the impression the mastercraft piece was gas compatible, wouldnt that be the reason it has the gas regulator and gas line?

Touge Tuning

TTT for advice

CroteTurbo

here's the link search product number 58-8027-4

http://www.canadiantire.ca/

It does look like it have Gaz but never see anyone using it to tell if it's a good welder or not, but the price is good.

Not too much heat adjustment (4)

Touge Tuning

yeah thats the one im looking at buying, not planning on doing anything to tough with it, just exhausts, turbo mani, ic pipes and any other little jobs i wanna do. What do you think the thickest metal that welder will work with etc?

After doing some research i found the welder is a campbell hausfeld welder rebranded by canadian tire, here is the link http://www.amazon.com/gp/produ...28013
let me know what you think about it...

stroked

$280 is a rip off for that pos I would go with a Chicago electric before I bought that

Touge Tuning

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stroked &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">$280 is a rip off for that pos I would go with a Chicago electric before I bought that</TD></TR></TABLE>

Im getting the same welder for $299Canadian which seems like a good deal to me.

Tony the Tiger

I have the Lincoln MIG Pak 10 with gas, and it could barely do turbo pipes or anything thick. It takes too much effort to make a nice bead, and it can't do much if there are slight gaps between your pipe connections. I could only say that the Mastercraft one would be even worse, and I doubt you will be able to get any decent and strong welds for any turbo related fabrication. I currently use my MIG pak 10 for spot welding to layout the piping, then I use my friend's Miller EconoTIG to do the actual welding.

Touge Tuning

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tony the Tiger &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have the Lincoln MIG Pak 10 with gas, and it could barely do turbo pipes or anything thick. It takes too much effort to make a nice bead, and it can't do much if there are slight gaps between your pipe connections. I could only say that the Mastercraft one would be even worse, and I doubt you will be able to get any decent and strong welds for any turbo related fabrication. I currently use my MIG pak 10 for spot welding to layout the piping, then I use my friend's Miller EconoTIG to do the actual welding. </TD></TR></TABLE>

hmmm thanks for the input, I figured it would be decent after reading a couple other threads of people using MIG's (110V). Specifically I was reading a thread i had made awhile ago regarding 110V MIG where "beepy" was saying that the best way to get a strong weld was to bevel the edges of the pipe and weld it in 2-3 passes and if you want clean up the weld after. What thickness were the pipes you were trying to weld? I am not looking for anything amazing, I just want something that will do the job of putting together some exhaust pipes, turbo mani etc. I have never welded before in my life so I was hoping to use this as a stepping stone to maybe getting a better MIG or even a TIG later on if i choose to pursue it.

Anyone have any other input?

2point2

I strongly recommend renting a small welder from Home Depot if you want to see what they can do.

You will probably want something better in the end.

Touge Tuning

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2point2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I strongly recommend renting a small welder from Home Depot if you want to see what they can do.

You will probably want something better in the end.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Didnt know Home Depot rented welders, i might do that but how good of a comparion will it be if its not the same make/model etc etc.

Tony the Tiger

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Stealth1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

hmmm thanks for the input, I figured it would be decent after reading a couple other threads of people using MIG's (110V). Specifically I was reading a thread i had made awhile ago regarding 110V MIG where "beepy" was saying that the best way to get a strong weld was to bevel the edges of the pipe and weld it in 2-3 passes and if you want clean up the weld after. What thickness were the pipes you were trying to weld? I am not looking for anything amazing, I just want something that will do the job of putting together some exhaust pipes, turbo mani etc. I have never welded before in my life so I was hoping to use this as a stepping stone to maybe getting a better MIG or even a TIG later on if i choose to pursue it.

Anyone have any other input?</TD></TR></TABLE>

It's absolutely doable, but it takes too much effort to weld anything decent IMO. If the pipe connections are tight without any gaps, it welds okay. With the lack of heat control though, welding different thickness of materials such as a pipe to a flange becomes really difficult. The pipes were 16 and 18 gauge mild steel and aluminized steel -- regular exhaust pipes basically. It's good for pipes only, but for manifolds, I doubt it.

The Lincoln Mig Pak 10 like the one I have would be a much better choice. Don't waste money on the Mastercraft one. Or perhaps buy the Mastercraft one, use it nicely and maintain all packaging, and if you hate it, return it

Touge Tuning

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tony the Tiger &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's absolutely doable, but it takes too much effort to weld anything decent IMO. If the pipe connections are tight without any gaps, it welds okay. With the lack of heat control though, welding different thickness of materials such as a pipe to a flange becomes really difficult. The pipes were 16 and 18 gauge mild steel and aluminized steel -- regular exhaust pipes basically. It's good for pipes only, but for manifolds, I doubt it.

The Lincoln Mig Pak 10 like the one I have would be a much better choice. Don't waste money on the Mastercraft one. Or perhaps buy the Mastercraft one, use it nicely and maintain all packaging, and if you hate it, return it </TD></TR></TABLE>

I might do that last option since CT isnt too picky on returns . I really only have like 1 day or 2 days left to buy it and im going back and forth whether to just buy it and learn to weld decent or if when it comes time to do some welding rent one from HD and go at it.