96 GSR-T

I have an S&W 8pt that for the most parts fits ok, it does not include the rocker to rocker bar so I have to add that and notch the d-bars to weld onto this bar. I also have the added rear x-brace that is not notched at all so that also has to be done. I noticed S&W used a plasma gun to notch their piping. I do not have one of those but I do have a large drill press, what is recommended to notch the tubing w/o buying a $500+ tubing notcher? The tubing size is .083 Moly, is there a recommended bit that I can use to notch the bars?

Also on the X-Brace's, I searched forever and could not find a picture of another car that had one, I am pretty sure it mounts inbetween the rear diagonals, but could it also mount from the main hoop where the diagonals are to possibly the floor area? I have never seen any specs for this, I know it is not needed but I like the look of it and the added bracing. I still need to purchase a 6' piece of .083 for the rocker bar and have been unsuccessful in finding anything locally, closet place I can find is S&W with is about an hour North of me, any recommended places to source some Moly Tubing online? Any help is appreciated

DaveF

an ordinary bench grinder will do the trick...

Bailhatch

they notch with a plasma cutter? sounds messy.

96 GSR-T

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bailhatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">they notch with a plasma cutter? sounds messy. </TD></TR></TABLE>

There was some light slag, looks like they took the bulk of it off. I am pretty sure it was a plasma, sure as hell wasnt a torch and does not look like the cut a bit would make.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DaveF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">an ordinary bench grinder will do the trick... </TD></TR></TABLE>

you make it sound so easy your in my neck of the woods, you ever dealt with any companies that stock Moly Tube?


Any of you guys know about the X-Brace? Possibly some pics or a link?

DaveF

i live 10 minutes from Vanishing Point, and a half an hour from s&w. those are the only places ive ever bought tube from.

supposedly there is a place called dillsburg aerospace(something like that) that has teh cheapest chro-mo around. and they ship.


what x brace ? in the rear ?

RC000E

yeah...use a cutoff disc to cut a v-notch, then use a grinder to round it off.

96 GSR-T

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what x brace ? in the rear ? </TD></TR></TABLE>

yea, I believe its place is in between the rear diagonals, just not sure if it should be connected where the diagonals meet the main hoop or in the middle or towards the bottom where the plates are. It is not sized large enough to span the full length of the diagonals, the whole cage would have to be much larger for that to happen if you understand what I am saying.

DaveF

like this ?

Tippyman

Lol.

96 GSR-T

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DaveF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">like this ?

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lolz, I am not sure, why I am asking yall

The car in the pic has its placed way differently than I thought it would go. Same concept though, never tought about mounting the bottom half to the shock tower, I though its main purpose was to keep the diagonals from collapsing in-ward, maybe I am wrong, I get no replies from S&W.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rota92 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Or even cooler, like this?



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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tippyman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Lol.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Jokes on me tonight?

96 GSR-T

here we go, here is the back of my car as I was test fitting ****, red or green for the X Brace



Red goes from the top of the main hoop where the diagonals connect to wherever they meet the diagonals further down.

Green goes from the harness bar to the shock tower.

DaveF

imo, dont bother with the x brace.. its not needed

manifoldmiketyson

cheap tube notcher

http://www.pro-tools.com/hsn500.htm

Electron_LS-Vtec

I use the harbor freight one... it gets me through about 2 cages before it breaks... but at $60 you can beat it.

96 GSR-T

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DaveF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">imo, dont bother with the x brace.. its not needed </TD></TR></TABLE>

I know its not needed, just I paid $90 for it so I would like to use it.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by manifoldmiketyson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">cheap tube notcher

http://www.pro-tools.com/hsn500.htm</TD></TR></TABLE>

too expensive, next cage I am just gonna pay to get it installed

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Electron_LS-Vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I use the harbor freight one... it gets me through about 2 cages before it breaks... but at $60 you can beat it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

This one?
http://www.harborfreight.com/c...42324

cluelessmale

iTrader: (1)

i used the h-f one it is not the best up it works

96 GSR-T

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cluelessmale &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i used the h-f one it is not the best up it works</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats what I like to hear, its only $40+ shipping. I think I am going to grab it up.

cluelessmale

iTrader: (1)

just make sure the keep the shaft lubed with wd-40, it helps a lot.

96 GSR-T

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cluelessmale &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just make sure the keep the shaft lubed with wd-40, it helps a lot.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yea I was just looking at that, was wondering what kept the shaft lube'd while it was spinning, I just bid on one from The Eastwood Company on Egay, I have used products that they sell before and they are a respectable company, cost $60 + shipping but it looks decent.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...8.lVI

Evile140

I have the aluminum harbor freight one, and I have used the living heck out of it. Bet I have at least 700 notches made with it, with more than half been in sch 10 stainless pipe. Moly tube is like cutting butter in comparison. Catch it on sale and they are like $30.
I bought it as one of those get me through a project items so I can buy a nicer one, but never have had to.
I did have to do a little bit tinkering with it though. The V notch that holds the pipe wasn't perfect and it would cause the notch to be a little off center. About ten minutes with the grinder and about 2 feet of plastic pipe and it is one pretty good now.

BigMoose

Dillsburg Aeroplane Works
114 Saw Mill Rd
Dillsburg, PA 17019-9517

Phone: (717) 432-4589

Likely the largest on site inventory of 4130 in the world.

Nice article on the history of Dillsburg Aeroplane works and the owner...

http://www.airbum.com/articles....html

Homebuilt airplane folks rave about this guy, his quality and pricing...

96 GSR-T

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BigMoose &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Dillsburg Aeroplane Works
114 Saw Mill Rd
Dillsburg, PA 17019-9517

Phone: (717) 432-4589

Likely the largest on site inventory of 4130 in the world.

Nice article on the history of Dillsburg Aeroplane works and the owner...

http://www.airbum.com/articles....html

Homebuilt airplane folks rave about this guy, his quality and pricing...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Good find! Nice article and that place is not even that far from me.

antireversion

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RC000E &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah...use a cutoff disc to cut a v-notch, then use a grinder to round it off.</TD></TR></TABLE>
instead of cutting the v notch, rotate the tube 90* and cut a point, kinda the opposite of a v.. with the deepest part of the cut on your cope line...and the point on the C/L of the tube...and use a sawzall of course....as if they make anything else...lol

all_motor_mike

a tube notcher like mentioned above or a bench vise on a drill press with a hole saw.


AMM

DaveF

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instead of cutting the v notch, rotate the tube 90* and cut a point, kinda the opposite of a v.. with the deepest part of the cut on your cope line...and the point on the C/L of the tube...and use a sawzall of course....as if they make anything else...lol
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this can be done with a chop saw as well ?