4" aluminum exhaust and aluminum catch can
02-13-2007, 03:00 PM
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Re: (tony1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Seriously guys, it's not that big a deal. I think it is kinda shitty if you're going to make them and sell them, but making one for your own car isn't the end of the world. </TD></TR></TABLE>
You are the MAN. If your car was running 11's and you made that catch can, no one would have ever thought of doing it. Dont forget you are one of the great icons in the Honda world so evrything you do WILL be copied. I also had a can made somewhat similar after reading some of your threads.
You are the MAN. If your car was running 11's and you made that catch can, no one would have ever thought of doing it. Dont forget you are one of the great icons in the Honda world so evrything you do WILL be copied. I also had a can made somewhat similar after reading some of your threads.
02-13-2007, 03:21 PM
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nice catch can, you guys can;t be serious about thinking this is a copy on T1's. I think you did a good job on it and had no intention to copy or duplicate t1. Anyways enough of that! I have a question for you...........
Where does that aluminum exhaust start? Aren't you a little worried that you made the exhaust system out of aluminum? Consdering the temperatures and fatigue that exhaust will experience i am not sure aluminum is the best idea considering its properties.
Where does that aluminum exhaust start? Aren't you a little worried that you made the exhaust system out of aluminum? Consdering the temperatures and fatigue that exhaust will experience i am not sure aluminum is the best idea considering its properties.
02-13-2007, 03:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by arc_55 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">nice catch can, you guys can;t be serious about thinking this is a copy on T1's. I think you did a good job on it and had no intention to copy or duplicate t1. Anyways enough of that! I have a question for you...........
Where does that aluminum exhaust start? Aren't you a little worried that you made the exhaust system out of aluminum? Consdering the temperatures and fatigue that exhaust will experience i am not sure aluminum is the best idea considering its properties.</TD></TR></TABLE>
typically as long as the downpipe is steel, the exhaust will be fine, it should be cool enough by then (considering this is a turbo car where the exhaust will be hotter than in a naturally aspirated application)
aluminum melts at 1220 degrees
theoretically, by the end of a typical downpipe it should be much cooler than that probably 400-600 degrees
it would be even cooler than that on a naturally aspirated engine
Where does that aluminum exhaust start? Aren't you a little worried that you made the exhaust system out of aluminum? Consdering the temperatures and fatigue that exhaust will experience i am not sure aluminum is the best idea considering its properties.</TD></TR></TABLE>
typically as long as the downpipe is steel, the exhaust will be fine, it should be cool enough by then (considering this is a turbo car where the exhaust will be hotter than in a naturally aspirated application)
aluminum melts at 1220 degrees
theoretically, by the end of a typical downpipe it should be much cooler than that probably 400-600 degrees
it would be even cooler than that on a naturally aspirated engine
02-13-2007, 03:51 PM
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tony's cans are the ****, well the whole setup is the ****. new to hondas yes, but big dollar race teams have been doing puke tanks like that for years...........
02-13-2007, 08:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by arc_55 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Where does that aluminum exhaust start? Aren't you a little worried that you made the exhaust system out of aluminum? </TD></TR></TABLE>
do you know what your pistons are made out of and what temperatures they see inside the combustion chamber?
Where does that aluminum exhaust start? Aren't you a little worried that you made the exhaust system out of aluminum? </TD></TR></TABLE>
do you know what your pistons are made out of and what temperatures they see inside the combustion chamber?
02-13-2007, 09:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by arc_55 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">nice catch can, you guys can;t be serious about thinking this is a copy on T1's. I think you did a good job on it and had no intention to copy or duplicate t1. Anyways enough of that! I have a question for you...........
Where does that aluminum exhaust start? Aren't you a little worried that you made the exhaust system out of aluminum? Consdering the temperatures and fatigue that exhaust will experience i am not sure aluminum is the best idea considering its properties.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Ive been running an aluminum DP for awhile now...let alone an exhaust.
Where does that aluminum exhaust start? Aren't you a little worried that you made the exhaust system out of aluminum? Consdering the temperatures and fatigue that exhaust will experience i am not sure aluminum is the best idea considering its properties.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Ive been running an aluminum DP for awhile now...let alone an exhaust.
02-14-2007, 04:41 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by miller »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
do you know what your pistons are made out of and what temperatures they see inside the combustion chamber?
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tool steel?
do you know what your pistons are made out of and what temperatures they see inside the combustion chamber?
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tool steel?
02-14-2007, 06:19 AM
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first of all OP, you've got *****. My friend copied one of tony's designs and tony killed him, his family, his friends, people that owed him money and then he just disappeared.
or maybe that was kaiser sose. either way.
seriously though, if you're just making parts for your own car i cant see anything wrong with it. if you are making parts to sell then thats pretty fucked up.
as far as the aluminum exhaust goes, what kind of wieght savings are we talking about here? i have zero experience with aluminum tubing.
is there anything special you need to do to have an aluminum exhaust(meaning do you need to do anything special to the metal itself)? how much more expensive is it? does it need to be braced any differently? what are the advantages and disadvantages?
or maybe that was kaiser sose. either way.
seriously though, if you're just making parts for your own car i cant see anything wrong with it. if you are making parts to sell then thats pretty fucked up.
as far as the aluminum exhaust goes, what kind of wieght savings are we talking about here? i have zero experience with aluminum tubing.
is there anything special you need to do to have an aluminum exhaust(meaning do you need to do anything special to the metal itself)? how much more expensive is it? does it need to be braced any differently? what are the advantages and disadvantages?
02-14-2007, 06:41 AM
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I have no experience either, but i imagine these are some issues:
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Weight ~ 1/3 the weight of steel
Resistance to corrosion
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If you bottom out, goodbye aluminum
large amounts of vbands transitions to/from steel if using steel components (dp,res,muf...)
Adv:
Weight ~ 1/3 the weight of steel
Resistance to corrosion
Dis:
If you bottom out, goodbye aluminum
large amounts of vbands transitions to/from steel if using steel components (dp,res,muf...)
02-14-2007, 06:50 AM
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Also found this article on SCCA forum pertaining to aluminum exhausts. Just some others opinions, but some good insight.
http://sccaforums.com/forums/thread/211179.aspx
http://sccaforums.com/forums/thread/211179.aspx
02-14-2007, 04:19 PM
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Re: (tony1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I guess it comes down to listening to people's theories or looking at real world results...</TD></TR></TABLE>
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02-14-2007, 06:01 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMCRX »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How long do the alum exhaust last for?</TD></TR></TABLE>
On average 322 days of continual driving, give or take 8 hours.
On average 322 days of continual driving, give or take 8 hours.
02-14-2007, 09:41 PM
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Re: (Andy R)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Andy R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have no experience either, but i imagine these are some issues:
Adv:
Weight ~ 1/3 the weight of steel
Resistance to corrosion
Dis:
If you bottom out, goodbye aluminum
large amounts of vbands transitions to/from steel if using steel components (dp,res,muf...)</TD></TR></TABLE>
I just finished my 4" alum exhaust using the same ss Vibrant muffler with riced out titanium blue tip using one vband
Adv:
Weight ~ 1/3 the weight of steel
Resistance to corrosion
Dis:
If you bottom out, goodbye aluminum
large amounts of vbands transitions to/from steel if using steel components (dp,res,muf...)</TD></TR></TABLE>
I just finished my 4" alum exhaust using the same ss Vibrant muffler with riced out titanium blue tip using one vband
02-15-2007, 06:23 AM
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Re: (tony1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I guess it comes down to listening to people's theories or looking at real world results...</TD></TR></TABLE>
please elaborate. what does the gospel of Tony say?
seriously, what are your thought on aluminum exhaust?
please elaborate. what does the gospel of Tony say?
seriously, what are your thought on aluminum exhaust?
02-15-2007, 07:36 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've built 4 of them, if that tells you anything. If you're still unsure, i've built 2 alum. downpipes... </TD></TR></TABLE>
Tony, do you use all 6063 for them?
</TD></TR></TABLE>Tony, do you use all 6063 for them?
02-16-2007, 02:52 PM
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Alright i was unsure of where he started the exhaust from, i never said the idea of aluminum exhaust the the worst thing on the face of the earth. Anyways good work !
02-20-2007, 08:53 AM
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its extremely light...9bells pm'd...car is 100% done you you guys wanna see and hear it? ill see if owner will let me post some more pics and videos...its not tuned yet so itl be just idling and some revs...let me know if its something you are all interested in seeing...
