Corvette?? bitch please You aint nothin but a vaniral disease so get back down on ur knees. and show the true respect to the Supra TT.

-TS04

it will own your precious Z06 like a bit bull fighting a jack russel terrier

Yes I know. Another fantastic ignition solution to a problem that doesn't exist by GM. High Energy Ignition anyone? Yuck.

Speaking from experience, I own a 94TT as well as several other high performance sports cars (MB SLK32, MB CLK55, 98 ITR, Honda S2000), my Supra, as well as any other MKIV Supra would leave a Vette behind after shifting to second. You can buy a MKIV Supra used for $25k with 30k miles stock. For $10k more go to a single Turbo and for $5K more in suspension upgrades you have a car that runs 10 second quarters, 180 - 200 mph, anywhere from 730 to 1000 hp at the wheels and handling that is at least equal to the Vette! All that and you have about $14k left from the sticker price of a Z06 ($54K)! By the way is there really any question on reliability of Toyota vs GM? Oh ya, I got 27 miles per gallon on the highway with it when I went to the Supra Convention in Los Vegas. There is not another production car made that can touch a Supra for ultimate performance. Try and upgrade a Vette and see what you will pay. I know my friend had a Vette and he started down that path and was very frustrated. He finally sold it and got a Viper.


I didn't know your car buy a Toyota Supra for 25k with 30,000 miles. That must be an awesome deal. What else I didn't know is that 10 second 1/4 you can have trap speeds from 180-200 mph. 730-1000 horsepower aint gonna handle that good since it got so much power. 27 miles per gallon on the highway is cool but the vette gets around the same, even better. Lets not talk about I can make this car faster and for cheaper than that car because I can very well modify a CRX and smoke that supra. The vette is a very good all around car.
And whats this talk about no other production car that can touch the supra for performance? Don't give me that crap. I don't believe anyword that you said. I do believe that u own a supra but u think you are on top of the world with that.

Great English there! I was not giving trap speeds but rather top end speeds. You dont seem to understand, just because a car has the potential for 750 hp doesn't mean you have to use all of it all the time. When I road race and autocross the car I turn the boost down. Maybe if you would read a little you would be able to understand why I made the statement that no other production car made for the money can come close to the numbers a single turbo Supra can produce and still be street worthy. Which would rule out your modified CRX.
[Modified by OBD1KNOBE, 2:14 AM 9/24/2002]

Who gives a **** what you can do to a Supra with the Vette's sticker price? Going by your logic, aren't you better off with a 280Z and dropping in a 350 mated with a 6 speed box? Lighter, faster, and handles better with fraction of the money you mentioned.

I guess you have never raced by your comment. That engine would throw off the balance of the Z. Besides, with the Supra we are talking bolt on mods not engine swaps. Stock bottom end with a worked head and a bigger turbo.

You can talk about your "streetable, 1000hp" Supra all day long but bottom line is, without 100+ octane gas (note: you don't live at the track, do you?) you'll lose what, 30? 40% of your power?

Wrong again. You can run on 93 octane up to 17 lbs of boost. That's good for over 500 rwhp! Still enough to smoke most street legal cars. Depending on what turbo upgrade you go with you can put out up to 1000 rwhp on 100+ octane.

The battle doesn't end right there either... How about drivetrain upgrade?

Wrong again. No drive train upgrade needed other than a clutch which is about $700. The transmission is made by GETRAG which is a German tranny maker. Some of the best transmission in the business. I believe they make they for Porshe also.

And don't even go to the fuel economy issue... If you're gonna spend that amount of money to build a fast car, who gives a rats *** about gas? Besides, the GM's 6 speed box is pretty cool... Can you say 1500rpm at 80mph?

With a 3000cc motor, 3200lb chassis, I don't see any "ultimate performance".

Any intelligent replies welcomed. But if you're gonna be a close minded "die hard import fan" then just ignore my post and continue fixing up your ultimate performance machine.

You're not going to run 10's in any streetable N/A small block car with full interior. As it stands, the Z06 is a mid to high 12 second car with 405HP. Dropping a couple of seconds from this ET would require about 700HP, which you are not going to get in anything anywhere near streetable trim without a turbo, supercharger, or NOS. Also, no 10 second car runs 170MPH trap speeds.

You're not going to run 10's in any streetable N/A small block car with full interior. As it stands, the Z06 is a mid to high 12 second car with 405HP. Dropping a couple of seconds from this ET would require about 700HP, which you are not going to get in anything anywhere near streetable trim without a turbo, supercharger, or NOS. Also, no 10 second car runs 170MPH trap speeds.


[Modified by StorminMatt, 2:58 AM 10/9/2002]

Since all my friend have vettes, let me say this.

A bpu supra on rice gas is faster than a

2002 z06
z06 with full bolt ons.
any ls1 car
pretty much any ls1 unless it has heads/cams (even then they usually lose), NOS, or a supercharger.

I have video of all the humanity