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Old 06-05-2006, 02:00 PM   #1
 
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Default Car won't start - Clicking starter - loose ground?

So I parked my car yesterday, ran into Starbucks for 5 mins to score a drink, came back out and my car wouldn't start.

When I turn the key all the way, the starter clicks, and the relay clicks. When I turn the key to "on" I hear all kind of whines and hums, the dash lights flicker, the "open door" noise disappers, basically everything goes haywire.

-Battery is good (and fully charged)
-Starter is good
-Grounds are good (t-stat housing/chassis/tranny/valve cover)
-Main relay is good
-All fuses are good

What the hell happened? When I push start the car, it runs fine.
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Battery cables and connectors.
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I know, but I'm stumped. It's a new battery with new terminals and the grounds are all aftermarket 4 gauge with gold terminals.

All I can think of is that it's not the negative side but the positive side. Where does the 12+ power go after it enters the underhood fuse box?
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I know, but I'm stumped. It's a new battery with new terminals and the grounds are all aftermarket 4 gauge with gold terminals.

All I can think of is that it's not the negative side but the positive side. Where does the 12+ power go after it enters the underhood fuse box?
it goes to the fuses. You have a 4 guage wire that goes from teh battery to the starter to power the motor. I would check that wire.

Try to crank the motor (12v to the s-termial on the start) and measure the voltage going to the starter. You hcan always run a battery test, record the data, then place the postive side connector of the tester on the 4 guage wire at the starter and see the data. A big difference in data means the wire is bad. That will cause your problem.
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could be the starter just took a ****..........try tapping the starter with a hammer and see if it starts?

OR it could be a bad ignition switch.......i have see a few of those go bad recently.....
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The problem is definitely not the starter or ignition switch.

Power is not looping somewhere, like there's a short. The lights are dim and the hazards won't even turn on (relay just buzzes). But the battery is fully charged.

Basically, all the symptoms of a dead battery but the battery is a one year old Optima yellow top and it's fully charged.

I just doubled checked the grounds, as well as the power wires going to the starter and fuse box.
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The problem is definitely not the starter or ignition switch.

Power is not looping somewhere, like there's a short. The lights are dim and the hazards won't even turn on (relay just buzzes). But the battery is fully charged.

Basically, all the symptoms of a dead battery but the battery is a one year old Optima yellow top and it's fully charged.

I just doubled checked the grounds, as well as the power wires going to the starter and fuse box.
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Battery cables and connectors.
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How did you test everything? IF you charge the battery or think it is charged?
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I checked all the wires with a multitmeter. I had the starter tested at AutoZone. I tried charging the battery, but my charger goes straight to trickle because it's already fully charged.


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Go to autozone and have them check it this way.

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You hcan always run a battery test, record the data, then place the postive side connector of the tester on the 4 guage wire at the starter and see the data. A big difference in data means the wire is bad. That will cause your problem.
It sounds like a connection problem.
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There goes 5 hours of my life. It was my new Optima battery Click the image to open in full size. . There goes $180 Click the image to open in full size.
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I smell a ninja edit Click the image to open in full size.

I've contacted Optima. Trying to get a refund. Apparently the model 51 yellow tops are notoriously defective.
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I smell a ninja edit Click the image to open in full size.
I got pwned by this:
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When I push start the car, it runs fine.
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