krazie1

everything was fine just driving back from a show and then on the highway PuFF!! car died tried to down shift for power but nothing.
I pulled over and the car will fire up but then right away dies....

What do u guys think I should try checking without buying another motor please.

I have checked the 3 main rules of a normal start up (Spark, Fuel, and Timing) all seem to be in check

Could it be the ignitor???? As it is common in OBD1 and OBD2 to be the cause of this?

Please Help

drdisco69

You're saying you are getting spark? It sounds like an ignitor or coil, but if it's sparking, maybe not. Could have jumped a tooth on the timing belt.

krazie1

Yeah I check this theory about the tooth and it is on the mark

I have a external coil also I doubt but I guess I am in need of a dizzy to find out this theory also huh>???

Anyone else before I go in search of one......

krazie1

no one????

Combustion Contraption

Pull off cap and rotor. Check the 3 wires that go to the ignitor for voltage with the key ON but the car not running. If there is voltage to all 3, and none of the wires were loose causing a bad connection, than the ignitor is bad and it needs to be replaced.

krazie1

has a good ignitor all wires had power

I guess I am glad next though I have two new questions??

Would low oil level cause this also??

and well it fired up for like a two seconds and died, What can that mean?

Combustion Contraption

no, low oil would not cause that.

If it fired up for 2 seconds and dies, its probably fuel. Can you hear your fuel pump prime when you turn the key into the On position?

krazie1

yes I can hear it

and would fuel delivery cuz it to actually fire up but not stay on I mean I can see I have 43 psi on my fuel pressure gauge

weird huh I wasn't even mashing on it just crusin' back from a showoff

Combustion Contraption

Yes fuel delivery could do that because if its pumping erraticly it would fire erratcicly. You also have some fuel left in the lines, rail, injectors when you first start the vehicle. Seeing as how you have a steady 43psi of fuel pressure, it doesnt sound like fuel is your problem. If you start the car and stand on the gas will it still die or will it rev?

krazie1

Die!!!

once it even like back fired a tad

but the rest of the times just wouldn't do nothing like rev just Die as normal well at least in it's present state u know....

I am getting frustrated with my Crvtec

baddog

sounds like bad ecu.

Sliced Beard

here are the problems that I have personally found to cause this

loose connections at fuel pump

bad ecu

and bad fuel filter

you will be amazed at how many people overlook the fuel filter

krazie1

ecu is a p28 w/s200 hondata system (new)

the fuel pump well I will check but I can hear it and see the fuel pressure on gauge


the fuel filter is a new AEM fuel filter I will check it out though

any one else has Ideas to look to

krazie1

no one?????

I am missing driving my beast and nothing yet

I would like ot fix this myself and not tow it to the shop which is a bit about 2 hours away

KillerBee

the exact same thing just recently happened to me. all you guys can laugh, but my problem was a "dirty air filter"...cleaned it with kn&n charger kit and wala worked for me. on me for letting it get so dirty

honda head

maybe the alternator is bad

krazie1

okay Alternator seems to be on some of ur minds

so how can I check this out???

or get it tested??

PrettyLude

here's how u check the alternator, start your car, then take off your positive terminal, if the car dies, your alternator is gone

Tad

alternator is NOT going to cause the car to die,
UNLESS your battery is COMPLETELY DRAINED.

even if you completely removed the alternator, the car would run fine until it drained the battery completely.

i'm thinking distributor, have you tried swapping in a good-known dizzy?

krazie1

well I have a volt meter on the battery and it read 13.?? when the car was running and before the crank up or starting before it would read 12.78 or 12.67 sometimes

so this might rule out the alternator theory right??

I am thinking u guys might be right about the dizzy but the ignitor checks out voltage there. I got spark

Timing is dead on

I am thinking maybe fuel or something
any ideas guys need to get it running asap show this weekend

Tad

with the car running the batt should read 13-14v
any less and that means the alt isnt charging it right.

but yeh with it off it'll be in the 12's.. it isa 12volt battery afterall

and you say it starts then dies right? that means you're getting fuel.

do you have any CEL?

krazie1

no cel

and yeah everything is in check so far

but ne one??

Tad

compression test time man.

if I were you, i'd head out to the nearest autoparts store RIGHT NOW(thnx giving tomoro man, ***** gona be closed)

and get a compression tester, they're like 20bux, and the test is ez as fawk.

krazie1

I have one and did this already got 220 across the board

but what would compression have to do with this?

Tad

sign of a fawked up motor duh!

hehe, ok i dunno, fawk..
chek ur tps..

if everything was good before, ur compression is good,
your getting fuel, spark, timing... it's probly something fukin stupid!!

heheheh... maybe u sucked up some **** in ur intake pipe, ehhh i duno.
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