AWD RHD EF
12-10-2009, 08:20 PM
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AWD RHD EF
I've been asked a question on my project, and since I think there are more people that can benifit from it, I thought I would put it up and maybe some more people can use some of the info.
It's bedtime for me, so I'll just answer the first question, and put up some more update type info when I get a chance.
How come my front drop spindles won't work?
To fully understand the answer, lets start at the beginning.
Honda makes the axles to match the power.
D series - small axles.
Basic b series - bigger axles.
CR-V, Integra type R, Prelude, etc. (think of all 5 lug hondas) - Even bigger axles.
Now some of those may have more to do with vehicle weight in addition to engine power, but even still, CR-V's have integra type r sized axles.
Bigger axles need bigger bearings.
Bigger bearing need a bigger hub.
Bigger hubs need further spaced studs.
Wider four lug? no, 5 lug.
Bigger stud spacing, bigger rotor.
Bigger rotor, different caliper mount.
So as you can see in my photos, the CR-V bearing will not fit into a stock civic spindle. My drop spindles are a stock civic replacement part. They won't accept the bigger CR-V bearing, hub, and 5 lug wheels.
Why not use the spindle and 4 lug? Because then you have 4 lug front and 5 lug rear.
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention I'm making it all wheel drive. More on that later. Here's some photos.
https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=DAB87...670ECAA%211069
It's bedtime for me, so I'll just answer the first question, and put up some more update type info when I get a chance.
How come my front drop spindles won't work?
To fully understand the answer, lets start at the beginning.
Honda makes the axles to match the power.
D series - small axles.
Basic b series - bigger axles.
CR-V, Integra type R, Prelude, etc. (think of all 5 lug hondas) - Even bigger axles.
Now some of those may have more to do with vehicle weight in addition to engine power, but even still, CR-V's have integra type r sized axles.
Bigger axles need bigger bearings.
Bigger bearing need a bigger hub.
Bigger hubs need further spaced studs.
Wider four lug? no, 5 lug.
Bigger stud spacing, bigger rotor.
Bigger rotor, different caliper mount.
So as you can see in my photos, the CR-V bearing will not fit into a stock civic spindle. My drop spindles are a stock civic replacement part. They won't accept the bigger CR-V bearing, hub, and 5 lug wheels.
Why not use the spindle and 4 lug? Because then you have 4 lug front and 5 lug rear.
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention I'm making it all wheel drive. More on that later. Here's some photos.
https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=DAB87...670ECAA%211069
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12-11-2009, 10:18 PM
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Re: AWD RHD EF
why don't you just use USDM itr or JDM ctr knuckles and axles for the front. they use the same 32mm axles as civics so you can use those drop knuckles
12-12-2009, 02:23 AM
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Re: AWD RHD EF
Shoot! Good lookin out!
https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-civic-del-sol-1992-2000-1/jdm-integra-type-r-5-lug-conversion-replacement-parts-2345751/
I didn't think they would be different. I mean why would honda go to a five lug without reason? if all they are doing is putting a 5 lug hub in a four lug hole, what was their reason?
I see on Intrgra Type R's wikipedia that they upped the size of the rear bearing on the Type R, making a larger bolt pattern probably nessasary. So I suppose they only upped the front for the same reason I am, to have 5 lug all the way around. Silly honda's.
So that means they didn't up the axle size in the US Type R? Why not? Do ours put out less power?
Lastly, anyone know where I can get a set of Type R hubs and bearings?
If I can get a set, I will still need to alter the caliper mounts, since they were made to accept stock civic calipers and the five lug's larger rotor will need the caliper moved out.
https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-civic-del-sol-1992-2000-1/jdm-integra-type-r-5-lug-conversion-replacement-parts-2345751/
I didn't think they would be different. I mean why would honda go to a five lug without reason? if all they are doing is putting a 5 lug hub in a four lug hole, what was their reason?
I see on Intrgra Type R's wikipedia that they upped the size of the rear bearing on the Type R, making a larger bolt pattern probably nessasary. So I suppose they only upped the front for the same reason I am, to have 5 lug all the way around. Silly honda's.
So that means they didn't up the axle size in the US Type R? Why not? Do ours put out less power?
Lastly, anyone know where I can get a set of Type R hubs and bearings?
If I can get a set, I will still need to alter the caliper mounts, since they were made to accept stock civic calipers and the five lug's larger rotor will need the caliper moved out.
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I heard someone say that you can't legally put a "truck" engine (crv) into a passenger car. That upset me pretty bad since that was what I was going to do. I talked to a state ref today, and told him what I was doing. I asked him about the truck/passenger car thing and he said 'that was right'. But, then he said that a b20 IS a usable replacement block, as long as it is in an LS configuration.
He said that using it in it's b20 form is too much like the CRV, making it a truck engine, but, if you use it to replace your blown LS it IS legal. MEANING: if I put 90/91 integra LS intake manifold on my b20 and use the LS computer, it IS reffable. Silly? Yes, stupid may even be a better description.
Then I asked him about the all wheel drive, Not relavant to smog right? No, he had to call someone above him to answer for sure, then he called me back and told me that using the tranny would make it too much like the CRV and that would not pass.
The exact opposite of everything I was expecting to hear. My plan will be either, unbolt the transfer case, put a two wheel drive's block off plate over it, and take it in and hope he can't tell the difference, or make a bunk *** b16 tranny mount, put that back in, and ref it that way. then switch the tranny back out. not my option of choice.
He said that using it in it's b20 form is too much like the CRV, making it a truck engine, but, if you use it to replace your blown LS it IS legal. MEANING: if I put 90/91 integra LS intake manifold on my b20 and use the LS computer, it IS reffable. Silly? Yes, stupid may even be a better description.
Then I asked him about the all wheel drive, Not relavant to smog right? No, he had to call someone above him to answer for sure, then he called me back and told me that using the tranny would make it too much like the CRV and that would not pass.
The exact opposite of everything I was expecting to hear. My plan will be either, unbolt the transfer case, put a two wheel drive's block off plate over it, and take it in and hope he can't tell the difference, or make a bunk *** b16 tranny mount, put that back in, and ref it that way. then switch the tranny back out. not my option of choice.
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Re: AWD RHD EF
i wanted to be able to come as straight down with it as possible in removing it. so at the time I thought this would be better. It ended up that it didn't really matter that much...
HOWEVER,
It turns out this mount is far more awesome than I planned it to be, I've only had to undo the upper bolts, and with the bottom mount loose i can swing the diff around. It's really nice to use.
Lastly, it's probably good i did it this way, because the welding tightened the tabs up on the diff, I should have put some thin copper shims in it just to weld it but didn't think about it. so it's really hard to get that mount off the diff. that being said, if i had done it straight to the bar, it would be a real pain in the *** with how tight the tabs are. I would have ended up hitting them with a hammer to make it easier to fit in and out.
So really, I could have, and did think of it, but thought this would be better. But it really isn't.
HOWEVER,
It turns out this mount is far more awesome than I planned it to be, I've only had to undo the upper bolts, and with the bottom mount loose i can swing the diff around. It's really nice to use.
Lastly, it's probably good i did it this way, because the welding tightened the tabs up on the diff, I should have put some thin copper shims in it just to weld it but didn't think about it. so it's really hard to get that mount off the diff. that being said, if i had done it straight to the bar, it would be a real pain in the *** with how tight the tabs are. I would have ended up hitting them with a hammer to make it easier to fit in and out.
So really, I could have, and did think of it, but thought this would be better. But it really isn't.
03-05-2010, 07:16 AM
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Re: AWD RHD EF
Made a lot of progress last weekend, here's the pictures
http://cid-dab87dff4670ecaa.skydrive...x/Race%20Time!
As you can see, the D batteries were all dead, so we improvised.
http://cid-dab87dff4670ecaa.skydrive...x/Race%20Time!
http://cid-dab87dff4670ecaa.skydrive...x/Race%20Time!
As you can see, the D batteries were all dead, so we improvised.
http://cid-dab87dff4670ecaa.skydrive...x/Race%20Time!
03-19-2010, 07:02 PM
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The State Referee is not that scary,
And here you have it:
http://cid-dab87dff4670ecaa.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/RHD%20AWD/P1110473.jpg#resId/DAB87DFF4670ECAA!911
Note, at the bottom it says: Block-B20Z2
And here you have it:
http://cid-dab87dff4670ecaa.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/RHD%20AWD/P1110473.jpg#resId/DAB87DFF4670ECAA!911
Note, at the bottom it says: Block-B20Z2
03-20-2010, 07:44 AM
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It is funny, but it is also legal. The 1.8 part is telling the smog tech to smog it under 91 integra 1.8 guidelines. The B20 is a legal replacement block for an LS 1.8. So the Note is there to tell any smog tech or CHP officer that this is the engine block that was in it when it was reffed.
The B20 is not a legal replacement block for any vtec motor. Trust me I tried.
Notice in the picture I have the Cr-v wheels on the back (5 lug) and my old wheels on the front (4 lug) because I haven't gotten the hubs yet.
The rear just has the axle stubs bolted to hold the hubs/ bearings together. No diff or axles. He didn't seem to mind the rear suspension alterations. Or he didn't notice them.
The B20 is not a legal replacement block for any vtec motor. Trust me I tried.
Notice in the picture I have the Cr-v wheels on the back (5 lug) and my old wheels on the front (4 lug) because I haven't gotten the hubs yet.
The rear just has the axle stubs bolted to hold the hubs/ bearings together. No diff or axles. He didn't seem to mind the rear suspension alterations. Or he didn't notice them.
03-22-2010, 06:28 PM
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nah, I put a normal one in it. the notched one isn't done yet. I put it on hold to focus on the ref/smog junk.
It also has the fwd b16 tranny in it (for now) since he said he couldn't pass it with the crv tranny. Using the Crv tranny is making it "too much" like a Crv, and you can't do that because of the whole light truck/ passenger car junk.
I don't mind switching the trannys, since this will give me time to upgrade the sychros, put in the phantom grip, and have my pressure plate rebuilt. (the car has a 'spec' aluminum pressure plate, and fidanza aluminum flywheel).
It also has the fwd b16 tranny in it (for now) since he said he couldn't pass it with the crv tranny. Using the Crv tranny is making it "too much" like a Crv, and you can't do that because of the whole light truck/ passenger car junk.
I don't mind switching the trannys, since this will give me time to upgrade the sychros, put in the phantom grip, and have my pressure plate rebuilt. (the car has a 'spec' aluminum pressure plate, and fidanza aluminum flywheel).
03-25-2010, 07:18 PM
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So I passed the ref, but failed my smog. I'm not really surprised, just disappointed that I didn't know about pretests.
Anyway, the main suspect for making it fail is the o2 sensor for reasons I could explain if someone asked, but for now it's irrelevant.
My question is does anyone know if an obd2 o2 sensor will work on an obd0 car. I assume without the heater, it's just an o2 with a white signal wire, just like the older ones. So, if i run an obd2 o2 and plugs, but only run the signal wire out of the second plug, will it work (read correctly)?
I ask because I have 5 o2 sensors sitting in the garage. 2 in the japanese b16, 2 in the C-rv manifold/cat, and one in the b18 junkyard manifold (on the car, suspect)
The 2 in the b16 manifold are old, beat, and possibly still ok. The one in the b18 manifold i think i ruined. But the 2 in the C-rv Parts, especially the one behind the cat, are newer, nicer, driven by a girl, and obd2.
While buying a new one is not out of the question, and tomorrow will commence testing on these things, I thought I would ask if anyone already knew for sure.
Anyone?
Anyway, the main suspect for making it fail is the o2 sensor for reasons I could explain if someone asked, but for now it's irrelevant.
My question is does anyone know if an obd2 o2 sensor will work on an obd0 car. I assume without the heater, it's just an o2 with a white signal wire, just like the older ones. So, if i run an obd2 o2 and plugs, but only run the signal wire out of the second plug, will it work (read correctly)?
I ask because I have 5 o2 sensors sitting in the garage. 2 in the japanese b16, 2 in the C-rv manifold/cat, and one in the b18 junkyard manifold (on the car, suspect)
The 2 in the b16 manifold are old, beat, and possibly still ok. The one in the b18 manifold i think i ruined. But the 2 in the C-rv Parts, especially the one behind the cat, are newer, nicer, driven by a girl, and obd2.
While buying a new one is not out of the question, and tomorrow will commence testing on these things, I thought I would ask if anyone already knew for sure.
Anyone?
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Not sure how much a universal one wire is, but If I buy a new one, I'll probably get one from Honda. He's only going to charge me 20 bucks for the retest. And a pretest isn't much more. I do agree though that it wouldn't take many tests to match the price of one.
I did find some good test instructions for testing o2 sensors, but I didn't get to work on the car this weekend. So, I'll try again friday. Still need to recheck the timing, and check for vaccuum leaks to solve the high idle. (it also failed for high idle.)
Keeping in mind, a simple vaccuum leak would cause all of this, high idle, lean condition, high combustion temp, high nox reading. But I don't want to get my hopes up, i'm still calling the o2 the main suspect.
Some info I found useful:
http://www.asashop.org/autoinc/oct2004/techtips.htm
This one is about porches, but the info is universal:
http://www.nichols.nu/tip766.htm
o2 Sensor testing info:
http://mr2.com/TEXT/O2_Sensor.html
I did find some good test instructions for testing o2 sensors, but I didn't get to work on the car this weekend. So, I'll try again friday. Still need to recheck the timing, and check for vaccuum leaks to solve the high idle. (it also failed for high idle.)
Keeping in mind, a simple vaccuum leak would cause all of this, high idle, lean condition, high combustion temp, high nox reading. But I don't want to get my hopes up, i'm still calling the o2 the main suspect.
Some info I found useful:
http://www.asashop.org/autoinc/oct2004/techtips.htm
This one is about porches, but the info is universal:
http://www.nichols.nu/tip766.htm
o2 Sensor testing info:
http://mr2.com/TEXT/O2_Sensor.html
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Sorry I've been slow to update. We've been planning a wedding, and that has left little time for the car. So little in fact that it's finishing is on hold till after the wedding.
The car passed it's smog check. It is now legally legal. I had an exteremly helpful smog guy, who helped me understand the numbers in all their placements. Changed to the Crv o2 sensor, and it was better, but not passing. Bought a new o2 from autozone for $40 and it passed.
(EDIT: That crappy o2 sensor only lasted about 2 months. I am now buying a Honda one for $170 [$220 regularly])
The car is running and driving in it's FWD form. B20, B16 tranny, Innovative mounts, and a solid tranny mount. The junk mount I made, just to hold the engine in so i could take it to the ref. Originally planning to take it out the next weekend and switch to the AWD tranny.
During that time I added some things to the build. Things that need to be done while the engine is out. My second car, a stock 91 Si, has been having tranny problems, so since I can't totally rely on that, I decided to put everything on hold till the wedding. So the RHD B20 is the daily driver again. The stock car is the back up.
The junkyard gas tank I threw in it for the ref purpose is leaking, so I have to keep it below the E line so it doesn't leak. Stupid yes, but i got no time to switch it. I'm ok with it because stopping at the gas station every other day will make the altered gas tank seem big compared to this.
The Drop spindles will not work. I called HT Motorsports and got him to send me the dimensions for the other spindle he makes, and it will work. Here's why:
The spindle I ordered was for a civic. That was dumb on my part. Nothing on my car is for a civic.
I ordered and recieved my US type R hubs. The civic spindle's wheel bearing will not fit the type R hub. But an integra's will.
Here's the important info:
There are four MAIN spindle differences, as they relate to making it 5 lug.
88-91 civic use one spindle.
92-95 civic and del sol use a different spindle.
91-93 integra use a different spindle from either of those.
94-01 integra use a fourth spindle, this one includes all submodels, type R and GSR, not including JDM Type R which is probably similar to a CRV.
The 94-01 integra spindle uses the SAME wheel bearing as the EG civic Si and the Del Sol with the B16.
The Crv spindle bearing is the same as an RSX including the type S.
Meaning: You can make any 94-01 integra and Civic Si and Del Sol with a B16 into a 5 lug just buy putting a US type R hub in it.
Note: The 94-01 Integra and the Cr-v use a different upper a-arm, on this car the a-arm is over an inch shorter than the stock older civic one. Not good suspension geometry.
Then theres the issue of the brakes.
I haven't finished the research on the brakes, but, it would seem that the 94-01 integra MAY use the same caliper mounts as the CRV. SO, Crv brake rotors and calipers an integra spindle with a 5 lug hub should yeild the same dimensions as a type R.
The Civic spindles do not have the same brake mounts. The EG Si and Del Sol B16 I have not measured.
HT Motorsports has very kindly agreed to swap me for the integra spindles. I am continuing to help him in his research and so he has been very good to me. I would not expect this result for every one.
MAKE SURE YOU ORDER THE PARTS YOU NEED BEFORE THEY SHIP. ONLY YOU ARE TO BLAME FOR ORDERING THE WRONG ****.
I ordered the wrong spindles, and consider myself very lucky to have him swap them for me. I shipped mine out Friday and am very eagerly awaiting the new set. It will be very nice to have matching wheels.
The car passed it's smog check. It is now legally legal. I had an exteremly helpful smog guy, who helped me understand the numbers in all their placements. Changed to the Crv o2 sensor, and it was better, but not passing. Bought a new o2 from autozone for $40 and it passed.
(EDIT: That crappy o2 sensor only lasted about 2 months. I am now buying a Honda one for $170 [$220 regularly])
The car is running and driving in it's FWD form. B20, B16 tranny, Innovative mounts, and a solid tranny mount. The junk mount I made, just to hold the engine in so i could take it to the ref. Originally planning to take it out the next weekend and switch to the AWD tranny.
During that time I added some things to the build. Things that need to be done while the engine is out. My second car, a stock 91 Si, has been having tranny problems, so since I can't totally rely on that, I decided to put everything on hold till the wedding. So the RHD B20 is the daily driver again. The stock car is the back up.
The junkyard gas tank I threw in it for the ref purpose is leaking, so I have to keep it below the E line so it doesn't leak. Stupid yes, but i got no time to switch it. I'm ok with it because stopping at the gas station every other day will make the altered gas tank seem big compared to this.
The Drop spindles will not work. I called HT Motorsports and got him to send me the dimensions for the other spindle he makes, and it will work. Here's why:
The spindle I ordered was for a civic. That was dumb on my part. Nothing on my car is for a civic.
I ordered and recieved my US type R hubs. The civic spindle's wheel bearing will not fit the type R hub. But an integra's will.
Here's the important info:
There are four MAIN spindle differences, as they relate to making it 5 lug.
88-91 civic use one spindle.
92-95 civic and del sol use a different spindle.
91-93 integra use a different spindle from either of those.
94-01 integra use a fourth spindle, this one includes all submodels, type R and GSR, not including JDM Type R which is probably similar to a CRV.
The 94-01 integra spindle uses the SAME wheel bearing as the EG civic Si and the Del Sol with the B16.
The Crv spindle bearing is the same as an RSX including the type S.
Meaning: You can make any 94-01 integra and Civic Si and Del Sol with a B16 into a 5 lug just buy putting a US type R hub in it.
Note: The 94-01 Integra and the Cr-v use a different upper a-arm, on this car the a-arm is over an inch shorter than the stock older civic one. Not good suspension geometry.
Then theres the issue of the brakes.
I haven't finished the research on the brakes, but, it would seem that the 94-01 integra MAY use the same caliper mounts as the CRV. SO, Crv brake rotors and calipers an integra spindle with a 5 lug hub should yeild the same dimensions as a type R.
The Civic spindles do not have the same brake mounts. The EG Si and Del Sol B16 I have not measured.
HT Motorsports has very kindly agreed to swap me for the integra spindles. I am continuing to help him in his research and so he has been very good to me. I would not expect this result for every one.
MAKE SURE YOU ORDER THE PARTS YOU NEED BEFORE THEY SHIP. ONLY YOU ARE TO BLAME FOR ORDERING THE WRONG ****.
I ordered the wrong spindles, and consider myself very lucky to have him swap them for me. I shipped mine out Friday and am very eagerly awaiting the new set. It will be very nice to have matching wheels.
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New Photos:
I will be rearranging the way the photos are stored online by separating them into folders. The new album can be seen here:
http://cid-dab87dff4670ecaa.photos.l...e.aspx/RHDAWD2
The gas tank is now finished, pressure tested leak free, and in the car being used.
The car is now back apart, the synchros and phantom grip are in the tranny, tranny back together. The clutch arrived the other day from being rebuilt. The axles have been ground and will be back together today (more on that later).
The synchro on the left is stock, the one on the right is carbon fiber lined.
I know the axle end looks crooked in the photo, but i assure you it's just the shadow.
The shifter has been mounted and the cables routed.
The rear diff spiders has been welded, the rear diff pump has been removed and the center diff clutch packs have been welded (by now, you should realize AWD is out except for dirt and snow, the focus has been shifted to rear wheel drive)
The last big things left to do are re-route the ebrake cables (they are in the way of the driveshaft) make a new exhaust, and convert the clutch to real hydraulic, because I'm not happy with the way the conversion feels in the pedal (more on that later too).
I'll put some more pictures here when I have time, till then, they are here:
http://cid-dab87dff4670ecaa.photos.l...e.aspx/RHDAWD2
and here:
http://cid-dab87dff4670ecaa.photos.l...aspx/RHD%20AWD
I will be rearranging the way the photos are stored online by separating them into folders. The new album can be seen here:
http://cid-dab87dff4670ecaa.photos.l...e.aspx/RHDAWD2
The gas tank is now finished, pressure tested leak free, and in the car being used.
The car is now back apart, the synchros and phantom grip are in the tranny, tranny back together. The clutch arrived the other day from being rebuilt. The axles have been ground and will be back together today (more on that later).
The synchro on the left is stock, the one on the right is carbon fiber lined.
I know the axle end looks crooked in the photo, but i assure you it's just the shadow.
The shifter has been mounted and the cables routed.
The rear diff spiders has been welded, the rear diff pump has been removed and the center diff clutch packs have been welded (by now, you should realize AWD is out except for dirt and snow, the focus has been shifted to rear wheel drive)
The last big things left to do are re-route the ebrake cables (they are in the way of the driveshaft) make a new exhaust, and convert the clutch to real hydraulic, because I'm not happy with the way the conversion feels in the pedal (more on that later too).
I'll put some more pictures here when I have time, till then, they are here:
http://cid-dab87dff4670ecaa.photos.l...e.aspx/RHDAWD2
and here:
http://cid-dab87dff4670ecaa.photos.l...aspx/RHD%20AWD
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07-31-2010, 12:24 AM
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I know, but it seemed the easiest way to not have to find a way to connect the two halves of the tank. This way the gas still passes under the driveshaft.
In case anyone is curious, it holds 9.somethinerother gallons.
In case anyone is curious, it holds 9.somethinerother gallons.
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So as I was working on the back of the motor last night, I started looking at the water pipe and asking myself "why did Cory say that the oil cooler wouldn't work?" So I looked at the B16 and it was because the pick up is from the block.
I decided I would tap the blank spot they left in the block for it, and put the oil cooler from the B16 on it.
Today I will try to pick up a 16mm x 1.5 tap and apropriately sized drill bit, and an easy out or two nuts to remove the oil filter stud.
B16 oil cooler and lines
B20 No cooler
B20, you can see the blank round spot above right of the filter spot, that's the feed line for the coolant.
I decided I would tap the blank spot they left in the block for it, and put the oil cooler from the B16 on it.
Today I will try to pick up a 16mm x 1.5 tap and apropriately sized drill bit, and an easy out or two nuts to remove the oil filter stud.
B16 oil cooler and lines
B20 No cooler
B20, you can see the blank round spot above right of the filter spot, that's the feed line for the coolant.
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I drove the car tonight, first time in RWD form. Kinda fun. I didn't get to play with it too much because I want to break in the clutch before I break the clutch. I didn't want to get to eager with it, but I did make a u turn and give a good amount of gas once it was in gear and it began to slide. I can tell this is going to be a fun car in the next week or so.
The drop spindles in the front are giving me some problems. But we put them on anyway because I'm tired of mis matched wheels. When I corner hard, I can hear the lower ball joint hitting the back side of the rim. Apparently, Honda never meant for the CRV to corner, and the rims flex. I know it sounds kinda crazy, but it's true.
EDIT: It's not true, I'm an idiot. It's the ball joints natural suspension movement. Have since made it better, but not finished yet.
It has some other little noises and quirks, but I'll work those out over time. The big problem I see right now is the suspension. It has always been junk, and it's really showing it now. New struts and springs have been moved near the top of the priority list.
I'll put some pictures up when I get a chance, but life is busy, especially when you're planning a wedding, and starting a new job, and building an AWD/RWD Civic.
The drop spindles in the front are giving me some problems. But we put them on anyway because I'm tired of mis matched wheels. When I corner hard, I can hear the lower ball joint hitting the back side of the rim. Apparently, Honda never meant for the CRV to corner, and the rims flex. I know it sounds kinda crazy, but it's true.
EDIT: It's not true, I'm an idiot. It's the ball joints natural suspension movement. Have since made it better, but not finished yet.
It has some other little noises and quirks, but I'll work those out over time. The big problem I see right now is the suspension. It has always been junk, and it's really showing it now. New struts and springs have been moved near the top of the priority list.
I'll put some pictures up when I get a chance, but life is busy, especially when you're planning a wedding, and starting a new job, and building an AWD/RWD Civic.
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