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Old 03-22-2007, 08:08 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by liquid:cooled &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

i havent heard anything positive about lower megan... have you ever seen thier LCA? .... the bushing is held in by a single allen bolt.

im thinking about the skunk2 LCA now because i havent heard anything negative about them and the have decent prices... </TD></TR></TABLE>

Are those Skunk2 cast or billet? How long is the warranty on them (including bushings)?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DavidR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Are those Skunk2 cast or billet? How long is the warranty on them (including bushings)?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Their new design is billet, and is more similar to Function7's 2 piece bushing design.

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i havent heard anything positive about lower megan... have you ever seen thier LCA? .... the bushing is held in by a single allen bolt.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Most aftermarket LCAs had the bushings held in place this way. Then Function7 came out with a better design. Sknunk2 jumped on board with that design and came out with their version-2 LCAs. You haven't heard anything bad about them yet because they are new. If they turn out to be good, you won't hear anything bad about them in the future. Hopefully that is the case, but only time will tell...
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Wicked Tuning!! http://www.wickedtuning.com
I've been running them in my race car and constantly give input on how to improve on the product. The product has been revised a few times to incorporate these input.

Real track tested!
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I've been running them in my race car and constantly give input on how to improve on the product. The product has been revised a few times to incorporate these input.

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dont listen.... they are lowwww quality imo
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by allricedout &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dont listen.... they are lowwww quality imo</TD></TR></TABLE>

no offense, but your opinion vs. Andrie's is not much of a match. If they were low quality they wouldn't be on his race car.
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Well it looks like he was banned anyways lol.
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OEM I have no need for flashy lca's.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by liquid:cooled &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

If anyone knows which one wears out quicker that would help a lot.... It does seem like the RUBBER might because its softer and easy to flex, but then at the same time POLY has a metal bearing in it that rotates with suspension movement...... </TD></TR></TABLE>


Modified by liquid:cooled at 5:32 PM 3/17/2007[/QUOTE]

I didn't see where anyone answered this so.....
The rubber bushings in aftermarket LCAs will definetely wear out much faster than the urethane bushings. Just remember to grease the urethane bushings.
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I didn't see where anyone answered this so.....
The rubber bushings in aftermarket LCAs will definetely wear out much faster than the urethane bushings. Just remember to grease the urethane bushings.</TD></TR></TABLE>

ive decided on ordering some S2R R-LCA....... with urethane bushings, where exactly do the bushings need to be greased...
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I didn't see where anyone answered this so.....
The rubber bushings in aftermarket LCAs will definetely wear out much faster than the urethane bushings. Just remember to grease the urethane bushings.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I've seen urethane wear out in a year. Like I said before, my OEM rubber ones have have only just started to wear out after almost eight years and 90k miles.
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where exactly do the bushings need to be greased... </TD></TR></TABLE>

EVERYWHERE...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94eg! &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">EVERYWHERE...</TD></TR></TABLE>

inside the metal bearing (pivot point) as well as the inside of the bearing (when shock bolt goes through) im assuming....
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Function7 ITR 'cause they're ballin
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You really need to coat the entire surface of the poly itself. Lube on the outside will be necessary to get the bushing pressed into whatever hole it's going in. The hole in the poly needs lube because the metal sleeve will be spinning around inside. And the sides need lube because the arms will be rubbing up against it.

The only reason to put lube inside the metal sleeve, would be to keep any bolts from seizing/rusting inside it. For this job, I would use anti-seize though (not bushing lube)...
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is there a diff. between bushing lube and grease? or no.
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I've seen urethane wear out in a year. Like I said before, my OEM rubber ones have have only just started to wear out after almost eight years and 90k miles. </TD></TR></TABLE>

That's why I specified aftermarket rubber bushings. Yes, the OE rubber bushings are much higher quality than the aftermarket offerings.
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yes i was... someone hacked into my account and now i have to start all over again.
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is there a special type of grease i should use when installing?
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what's the purpose of buying aftermarket rear LCA's? I see a lot of people do this, but is there a real advantage to doing this? I'm curious
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Or you can follow My DIY on how to replace the bushings of your stock LAC's to Polyurithane.

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yeah..i used Anti-Seized for future purposes...in the future i might want to go back and deal with it again...
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There are some advantages. The most obvious is an entire new arm makes suspension swaps much easier (since the old ones are usually unuseable afterwards due to seized up bolts inside the bushings). Aftermarket LCA's that already have polyurethane bushings or spherical bearings offer improved performance over just plain hard rubber. But that is the only time you'll see performance benefits coming from swapping LCA's; the weight reduction is negligible.
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Hm, this thread is really making me think. I just bought a 94 hatch as a project car with intentions to autocross it(and also build a nice LS/Vtec). I also just bought a crashed 94 integra. I am now debating whether or not to buy aftermarket LCA's or just stick with OEM Integra LCA's with new aftermarket bushings....hmm...
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I now need to decide which bushing manufacturer to go with...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boostedwagon &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I now need to decide which bushing manufacturer to go with... </TD></TR></TABLE>

It is much better to replace the whole LCA with a new OEM one than replace the rubber bushings in an OEM LCA with readily available poly bushings.


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