Smooth ride? Coilovers? Lowering Springs?
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Smooth ride? Coilovers? Lowering Springs?
After doing a little research I have seen comments like "once I installed my Skunk2's it was a rough ride" etc. etc. I'm hoping you guys can give me some insight into how putting on coilovers/lowering springs has affected your ride in detail please. My main concern is I don't want to install coilovers/lowering springs and the ride is gonna be really rough. Any insight will help
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Re: Smooth ride? Coilovers? Lowering Springs?
After doing a little research I have seen comments like "once I installed my Skunk2's it was a rough ride" etc. etc. I'm hoping you guys can give me some insight into how putting on coilovers/lowering springs has affected your ride in detail please. My main concern is I don't want to install coilovers/lowering springs and the ride is gonna be really rough. Any insight will help
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Re: Smooth ride? Coilovers? Lowering Springs?
if you are lowering for looks... Ebay has cheap coilover sleeves. this set up will be under damped... providing a "rough" bouncy ride quality.
lowering springs.. will lower the car but depending on the spring rate you could still be under damped.
if you want to go an inch or two lower with ride quality that wont push your spine out the top of your neck you should look into upgraded shocks to go with your lowering springs/coilovers.
it aint cheap. the pop choice for adjustability, ride quality, and price is the Koni sport yellow shocks paired with ground control coilovers. that run ya about 700 or more.
worth it though, and it will handle your needs if you decide to auto X or just beat tha street.
my experience: 95 dx coupe with rotted suspension bushings and blown shocks= felt like I was driving a very small caddy and would bottom out and jump around... so I didn't have a base line of what a good stock suspension feels like.
replaced all bushings with energy suspension units(this is what makes your car ride "rough" like its on skateboard wheels) installed koni sport yellows all around with megan coil over sleeves dropped a little over an inch and a half. spring rates are 350lbs in the rear and 450 up front. on the first outing I left the shocks at full soft dampening which turned out to be tolerable but a bit bouncy in the rear.
adjusted to "sport" damping the rear end stopped bouncing around but is still a jolt over bumps in the road.(to be expected)
the upgrade made take off feel more direct because the higher spring tension resists the weight transfer. side to side transfer is also more controlled giving a more positive feel when cornering.
if you go with the koni/GC set up I think you have some options as far as spring rates which is a big plus, it really depends how low you wanna go. if you only drop an inch you can retain a rather lite spring rate(less bouncy and closer to OEM ride quality).
my car rides like a skateboard as someone put it here in the forum, as stated earlier its only because of the bushings I chose.
figure out what you want to achieve and do a little research, you will find whats best for you.
-chris
lowering springs.. will lower the car but depending on the spring rate you could still be under damped.
if you want to go an inch or two lower with ride quality that wont push your spine out the top of your neck you should look into upgraded shocks to go with your lowering springs/coilovers.
it aint cheap. the pop choice for adjustability, ride quality, and price is the Koni sport yellow shocks paired with ground control coilovers. that run ya about 700 or more.
worth it though, and it will handle your needs if you decide to auto X or just beat tha street.
my experience: 95 dx coupe with rotted suspension bushings and blown shocks= felt like I was driving a very small caddy and would bottom out and jump around... so I didn't have a base line of what a good stock suspension feels like.
replaced all bushings with energy suspension units(this is what makes your car ride "rough" like its on skateboard wheels) installed koni sport yellows all around with megan coil over sleeves dropped a little over an inch and a half. spring rates are 350lbs in the rear and 450 up front. on the first outing I left the shocks at full soft dampening which turned out to be tolerable but a bit bouncy in the rear.
adjusted to "sport" damping the rear end stopped bouncing around but is still a jolt over bumps in the road.(to be expected)
the upgrade made take off feel more direct because the higher spring tension resists the weight transfer. side to side transfer is also more controlled giving a more positive feel when cornering.
if you go with the koni/GC set up I think you have some options as far as spring rates which is a big plus, it really depends how low you wanna go. if you only drop an inch you can retain a rather lite spring rate(less bouncy and closer to OEM ride quality).
my car rides like a skateboard as someone put it here in the forum, as stated earlier its only because of the bushings I chose.
figure out what you want to achieve and do a little research, you will find whats best for you.
-chris
Last edited by stupidhard; 08-20-2014 at 06:39 PM.
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Re: Smooth ride? Coilovers? Lowering Springs?
Yep, the 88 Fiero suspension is completely different from the 87
Assuming the typical 90's Civic/Integra chassis,
OP: If you want a decent setup, $600-$700 is about the absolute minimum you'll be able to get rolling for. This gets you into Progress or a basic Koni/GC setup. Either of these options are a great budget setup. If you want to lower more than about 2" you'll need to get into extended top hats with the Koni/GC, another .5" and you'll need to stat upping the spring rates significantly to stay out of the bumpstops and/or front shock towers. You can also forget about a decent ride at that height, there's just not enough suspension travel to allow it.
A lowered car has to be stiffer to function properly, you need to define what you are willing to tolerate in order to get a decent idea of what will work for you.
Assuming the typical 90's Civic/Integra chassis,
OP: If you want a decent setup, $600-$700 is about the absolute minimum you'll be able to get rolling for. This gets you into Progress or a basic Koni/GC setup. Either of these options are a great budget setup. If you want to lower more than about 2" you'll need to get into extended top hats with the Koni/GC, another .5" and you'll need to stat upping the spring rates significantly to stay out of the bumpstops and/or front shock towers. You can also forget about a decent ride at that height, there's just not enough suspension travel to allow it.
A lowered car has to be stiffer to function properly, you need to define what you are willing to tolerate in order to get a decent idea of what will work for you.
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Re: Smooth ride? Coilovers? Lowering Springs?
Koni/GC works if you're not planning on lowering the car more than 2''. I would use standard rate springs....assuming mid 90's civic/integra...that means like 380/250 (lb/in). These cost around $750-800.
Tein Street Advance (not super street) is a comfortable coilover. They're around the same price as the Koni/GC...but will be more soft/comfy. I got the ones on my TSX for $835 or something.
Buddy club N+ is a mix of sportyness and comfort...and is the ONLY full body adjustable coilover I would buy for around $1k or lower.
The Skunk2 Pro C wasn't terrible...but the ride was just so dead and boring feeling.
Tein Street Advance (not super street) is a comfortable coilover. They're around the same price as the Koni/GC...but will be more soft/comfy. I got the ones on my TSX for $835 or something.
Buddy club N+ is a mix of sportyness and comfort...and is the ONLY full body adjustable coilover I would buy for around $1k or lower.
The Skunk2 Pro C wasn't terrible...but the ride was just so dead and boring feeling.
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