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Old 06-29-2011, 06:20 PM
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I will just buy used full coilovers or new Konis and used GC. haha.
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Originally Posted by eg7
1200 for PIC? **** that. Im going with koni gc. 400 front 300 rear.
$1200 is for the Selects which are dampening adjustable. For around the same price as the Koni/ GC combo you can pick up some Apex coilovers (non adjustable dampening) and choose your rates as well.
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Originally Posted by Local
$1200 is for the Selects which are dampening adjustable. For around the same price as the Koni/ GC combo you can pick up some Apex coilovers (non adjustable dampening) and choose your rates as well.
So for the same price as a lifetime warranty adjustable shock and spring combo I can buy a non-adjustable 1 yr warranty coilover? Sounds like a deal to me!
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So for the same price as a lifetime warranty adjustable shock and spring combo I can buy a non-adjustable 1 yr warranty coilover? Sounds like a deal to me!
I had a sneaking suspicion you would be back to knock my opinion lol. To each their own, I’m just giving my input and any information I feel could help him make his decision. He seemed concerned with the price, not with the lifetime warrantee.

And you failed to mention the entry level PIC coilover. You jumped right to the pricier one so you could compare it to the more expensive coilover which you purchased, then knock it. Whatever you need to do to prove your point I suppose, but that’s not very helpful.

Im not here to argue so u can have your thread back
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Originally Posted by Local
+1 that has never heard of AMR before this thread..

Any who, I went with PIC Selects P2 and have had them on for a little over a week. About 150 miles on them right now & so far no complaints. I’m coming from old oem GSR suspension to these Selects. Huge difference (no ****)... and the 8 levels of dampening actually have an immediate & noticeable change with none of the settings feeling unusable or uncomfortable (unlike my BC N+). Still dialing in mine to find what I’m going to like best for my daily commute.

The customer service was incredibly nice & helpful to boot. They were able to work with me in multiple stages of my order & added an additional feeling of security for the whole process.
Originally Posted by Local
I had a sneaking suspicion you would be back to knock my opinion lol. To each their own, I’m just giving my input and any information I feel could help him make his decision. He seemed concerned with the price, not with the lifetime warrantee.

And you failed to mention the entry level PIC coilover. You jumped right to the pricier one so you could compare it to the more expensive coilover which you purchased, then knock it. Whatever you need to do to prove your point I suppose, but that’s not very helpful.

Im not here to argue so u can have your thread back
I only went with the selects because I was comparing apples to apples. Looks like I wasn't the only one that went with the adjustable model (more expensive). I'm not here to argue either but why wouldn't you go with the warranty that last longer? Both shocks do their job, both suspensions work well. But I know you got 11 more months on your warranty and I don't have to worry about my shocks anymore.

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Not to mention, at the cheaper PIC select you could pick whatever rates you want with Koni/GC and get a lifetime warranty.

That would be more apples to apples, $799 koni/GC and the ~$850 PIC
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koni/gc it is.
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Does amr honor the warranty only on new sets?
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Originally Posted by eg7
Does amr honor the warranty only on new sets?
you should contact them.
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Any updates on this debate? I'm in the market for a drag set at the moment. I currently have Koni/GC, but I want a setup that I can adjust preload and ride height.

If you will, please list likes / dislikes / problems with what you own.

Thanks!
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Why lock the thread?
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Because it's old and everything that could be discussed has already been discussed. Everything else can be found via a Google search of this site.

How hard hard is it to compare the specs of both side by side, weight prose and cons, and make your own informed decision?
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Because it's old and everything that could be discussed has already been discussed. Everything else can be found via a Google search of this site.

How hard hard is it to compare the specs of both side by side, weight prose and cons, and make your own informed decision?
WRONG!

Being old is EXACTLY why I brought it up. Comparing specs on paper is easy, REAL WORLD examples of how the two brands of suspension have held up and performed over time is not. How the people in this threads suspension has held up in the last two years CAN NOT be found through a "Google search of this site". I have less than 120 post is 11 years because I read and research.

Now I see why you have 24,600 posts in 5 years because all you do is troll threads to add your stupid comments that waste space on the forum and waste peoples time.

If you dont have anything technical to add, do us a favor and keep your mouth shut.
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How about you search to see any reports of failures from either one of these exist? Opposite search, same results. If no one has reported any, especially recently, then you have your answer. The only reported failure for AMR says they were prototypes http://clubroadster.net/vb_forum/22-...coilovers.html. None for PIC. In the time I've been here on H-T I have never seen such a report.

We already know BOTH of these are quality setups so what is anyone going to say besides "hold up gud"?

And again, public forum. And with only 119 posts after 11 years I can see you're a frequent H-T contributor giving back to the community and sharing your wisdom. And I probably research more than most people on this site.
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What has this site turned into?

I spend my time actually WORKING on turbocharged hondas since 1999 and personally built my 800whp b-series, NOT TROLLING threads posting useless crap. I help the community by physically helping them with their cars, not telling them to do a google search of the site.

How about if you do not have any personal experience with either of these you stop wasting forum space. I'm done waste time on you.
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Seriously. Is it that hard? Quality setups with a company that backs their product. Have an issue and they will be right there to help rectify it. No failures reported. Lifetime warranty on AMR. 1 year for PIC. Having dealt with Andy (AMR) personally, it's a no-brainer.
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i had to vote amr only based on first hand info on having owned pic's and reviews of amr.

i had pic apex 10/8k and were WAY to hard for the given rates. i have had other setups with same rates and pic's were 2x hardcore of a ride. i like the pic's handled GREAT but left alot to be desired as for ride quality. then upon corner balancing w/driver weight and seting proper ride height ride quality fell of 3x more. i was not slammed by any means i had 2.5 finger gap on 15" 205/50/15's. The rear bounced off the ground ALOT when on pubic roads and any kind of bump ( w/sway bar unhooked). i could have changed spring rates to lessen harshness but i FEEL i would have given up some on handling.

lastly things i have seen andy from amr do to just help someone in diff threads speaks VOLUMES to his care/love of the scene.
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Originally Posted by jdmh22eg2
i had to vote amr only based on first hand info on having owned pic's and reviews of amr.

i had pic apex 10/8k and were WAY to hard for the given rates. i have had other setups with same rates and pic's were 2x hardcore of a ride. i like the pic's handled GREAT but left alot to be desired as for ride quality. then upon corner balancing w/driver weight and seting proper ride height ride quality fell of 3x more. i was not slammed by any means i had 2.5 finger gap on 15" 205/50/15's. The rear bounced off the ground ALOT when on pubic roads and any kind of bump ( w/sway bar unhooked). i could have changed spring rates to lessen harshness but i FEEL i would have given up some on handling.

lastly things i have seen andy from amr do to just help someone in diff threads speaks VOLUMES to his care/love of the scene.
Thank you very much for sharing your personal experience.
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Have to vote AMR on customer service alone, not to mention the incredible quality put into the parts their producing. I havent got to put my coils to use yet but i would buy another set from them right now if i had the money. Also my only experience with PIC was far from helpful.
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