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Old 12-23-2008, 07:20 PM
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Default Ksport Air Suspension?

http://www.ksportusa.com/asp/air_suspension.asp

Whats the deal with Ksport Air Suspension?

Anyone have it?

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I'm interested for sure but for $3,500 it better far exceed what I'm expecting.
Old 12-23-2008, 08:56 PM
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hmmm wonder how good it is... I've always wanted to have a lowered car but my driveway says other wise, air ride would be the way to go and an all-in-one kit like this is better from them since they already have the measurements and parts for the suspension...
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Thats what I'm thinking, plus air is dope.
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Originally Posted by i heart honda
Thats what I'm thinking, plus air is dope.
lol not everybody (specially on H-T) would agree...
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Ya but it doesn't matter what they think. When people start buying my parts they can tell me whats dope and what isn't.

Besides from what I'm reading the performance side of the setup seems pretty stout. Adjust ability is never a bad thing, especially when you're not sacrificing performance.
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Default Re: Ksport Air Suspension?

Having the adjustable shocks and perches should perform alot better than most kits no shocks and fixed heights... but the universal pic doesn't show which type of bag/cylinder set up it's going to use...
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Ya I emailed Ksport inquiring about more information/pics on the setup... I'll keep you updated.
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Default Re: Ksport Air Suspension?

Just keep in mind, our Hondas don't use a solid axle like the rear of an old skool low rider. Our toe changes with ride height, which destroys tires insanely quickly on a car that can vary the ride height on demand...
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Originally Posted by TunerN00b
Just keep in mind, our Hondas don't use a solid axle like the rear of an old skool low rider. Our toe changes with ride height, which destroys tires insanely quickly on a car that can vary the ride height on demand...
For me the air ride option would be so I could be like everybody else and enjoy a 1-2" lowered stance and then be able to pop up to clear my drive way, speed bumps, dips and so forth. Also in the full air'd out position it makes the car a bit harder to steal/drive which inturn can be used for security measures... I know the geometry is in constant flux and air ride will do more harm than good if it's constantly being played with, it's no different than having a drop kit or coil overs and not having the alignment adjusted afterwards...
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Default Re: Ksport Air Suspension?

I'd like to know the weight of the system and what spring rates come with the kit. Also, are the rates variable depending on the height....
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Originally Posted by RPM
I'd like to know the weight of the system and what spring rates come with the kit. Also, are the rates variable depending on the height....
There are no springs in that setup, therefore no spring rate. There would be an "effective" spring rate, since it sort of acts like a spring, but it would probably vary depending on how much pressure is in the bag.
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Airbags are gay.
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Originally Posted by TunerN00b
Just keep in mind, our Hondas don't use a solid axle like the rear of an old skool low rider. Our toe changes with ride height, which destroys tires insanely quickly on a car that can vary the ride height on demand...
Your alignment would probably be screwy because of the continuous changing of the ride height.
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Originally Posted by mrdeadman
Airbags are gay.
This isn't Vanilla Ice's early 90's air ride bro. You could track a car with KSport's air ride and still turn decent lap times, better lap times than a stock suspension.
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Originally Posted by i heart honda
This isn't Vanilla Ice's early 90's air ride bro. You could track a car with KSport's air ride and still turn decent lap times, better lap times than a stock suspension.
I would argue that you could spend less on some coilovers and your lap times would be even better!
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Originally Posted by mrdeadman
Airbags are gay.
I read an article where Praxis air suspension was installed on a WRX and tests showed the suspension's "spring" rate to be stiffer than most racing lowering springs on the market. Is that gay too?

http://www.praxissuspension.com/
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Originally Posted by mrdeadman
I would argue that you could spend less on some coilovers and your lap times would be even better!
I would argue that the level of adjustment(both time of adjustment and height adjustment) fails in comparison to this air suspension.

Obviously it cost more, but there are pro's and con's to everything. Except for AIDS. Which I can't think of any pro's.

Anyways, I always thought it would be cool to bag my crx, but the only reason I haven't would be because of the performance I would be loosing in my suspension. This is kind of like the best of both worlds.

To me an SiR'd CRX pancaked to the floor with a set of dope *** work wheels would really wet my whistle.

Originally Posted by PatrickGSR94
I read an article where Praxis air suspension was installed on a WRX and tests showed the suspension's "spring" rate to be stiffer than most racing lowering springs on the market. Is that gay too?

http://www.praxissuspension.com/
I also read that article, pretty sure it was in sport compact car a few years back?
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Default Re: Ksport Air Suspension?

I think that's where I read it, but Turbo Magazine also did the same.

http://www.turbomagazine.com/tech/03...ion/index.html
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Originally Posted by PatrickGSR94
I read an article where Praxis air suspension was installed on a WRX and tests showed the suspension's "spring" rate to be stiffer than most racing lowering springs on the market. Is that gay too?

http://www.praxissuspension.com/
It costs twice as much and weighs 30 pounds more.
It's just not me. That's all. If you guys want to spend 4k on some airbags go ahead, but you won't catch me doing it.
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Default Re: Ksport Air Suspension?

Has ksport really earned the trust of the honda-tech community? People are so quick to talk trash about obx but zomg ksport has air ride suspension!! And nobody even cares to mention there numerous failing shocks or the numerous dealers that stopped carrying there product line due to excessive failures!!
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Default Re: Ksport Air Suspension?

I noticed that D2 has the exact same air setup as KSport.
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Originally Posted by mrdeadman
It costs twice as much and weighs 30 pounds more.
It's just not me. That's all. If you guys want to spend 4k on some airbags go ahead, but you won't catch me doing it.
And that is why this system failed. Too expensive and complicated, plus some marketing genius put a coil spring in the logo for an air suspension. However, having driving the Praxxis WRX a few times (we have one of the old ones at work), I never found the lowest and harshest setup all that bad. I'm not sure of the effective spring rates on it, but the ride really wasn't that bad. Handles pretty good too. Too bad the car is pretty much ragged out now.
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Default Re: Ksport Air Suspension?

Originally Posted by PatrickGSR94
I noticed that D2 has the exact same air setup as KSport.
pssshhhhht, someone has to make purple versions, come on now. d2=ksports in purple.
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Originally Posted by DJackson1357
And that is why this system failed. Too expensive and complicated, plus some marketing genius put a coil spring in the logo for an air suspension. However, having driving the Praxxis WRX a few times (we have one of the old ones at work), I never found the lowest and harshest setup all that bad. I'm not sure of the effective spring rates on it, but the ride really wasn't that bad. Handles pretty good too. Too bad the car is pretty much ragged out now.
how was the speed level of adjustability?

is it like a full on drop out bag kit, or is it slower, like a VIP bag kit?
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Hello All I am new to the forums but I wanted to let everyone know I purchased the K-Sport air ride kit 4 months ago and finally got it I am hoping to install in the next week or two. (sorry just really busy) some say air ride is ghetto or gay but I cant drive fast anyway - I drive a '08 Honda Civic Hybrid with a full Mugen Body kit and wheels and I need to raise the car up to get into the drive ways... here is a pic of my car and I will post up some pics and video after I install the k-sport air kit





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