crexer

makes me upset and I didnt even buy the crappy d2's!!

vtecvoodoo

Parker,

When you get them off the car send me the defective unit and I might be able to rebuild it for you. Maybe I can clean up their mess and at least get you back on the road.

94eg!

iTrader: (2)

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I talked to vtecvoodoo (at Eibach) and he said he would be willing to look them over and give his professional opinion on what went wrong if you feel like sending a couple of them his way. They have a shock dyno over there too...

Just send him a PM if your interested...

***edit: He beat me too it... LOL!

chitownrida

shouldnt the shop that u got them from be able to get at D2?


sucks to hear though

MrParks

thanks buddy, i will i was actually gonna do it myself but you'd prolly know alot more about this kind of garbage. on a side note i knew that they were iffy from the get go, but i got them right when they came out, i shouldve used my first judgement and held out

thanks for your help, ill keep everyone posted.

hey does richard still work there? i think that was his name he dated one of my old school girlfreind back in the day

MrParks

here is the conversation i had with d2, not in any order but also what i could find since i earsed alot of my messages but nost of it is in there


koo i got your addy...thanx for your support!.im only going to be sending you the replacement shocks, you have to use the springs that you have now..but if you need custom spring rates pls let me know..i know your running the sfwd class so you need the rear to be really stiff..let me know if i can help you on that. ty
martin

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: mr. parks
Date: Feb 22, 2007 2:48 PM


absolutely! thank you so much, i will make sure you get credit in the honda tuning mag for the suspension i am doing a spread for them in july

9400 topanga canyon blvd # 205
chatsworth, ca 91311
818 355 xxxx
this is my office

p.s. last question is what spring rates are they coming with? thanks so much

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: TEAM D2 RACING
Date: Feb 22, 2007 2:13 PM


i hit you up last week; but i guess you did not get it...
i need your addy..so i can send you the replacements...thanx for being patient...my bad it took a long time for me to get it out to you...but as soon as i get your addy i will send it to you..and all i ask in return is a +feed back on honda tech..ty;martin
----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: mr. parks
Date: Feb 21, 2007 12:24 PM


yo, any news? what can i do at this point
Date: Mar 20, 2007 10:34 AM
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Subject: suspension inquiry
Body: hey martin,

its jason, hey man i know your a busy guy and i appreciate your help with my d2's. ive seen you read my messages and never gave me a straight answer about the shocks arriving, look its all good bro i still havent seen anything from you nor an answer. so i can only assume your avoiding me and cannot help my situation. thanks for your all your time, i think i know where to use mine now.


park

myspace addy

http://www.myspace.com/teamd2

GarageAlchemist

lol.. dood d2 took your money, like all these other company's and ******* jetted.. d2 is no longer in business, all these company's do is buy Taiwan based coilovers(megan, f2, d2, omni, pic, etc, etc etc) from toser/dpower, in bulk, with a custom look, color, logo, etc.. upsell by 400$.. take your money, and fade away..

http://www.d2motorsports.com/ is down as well

sorry to hear about your leaking coilovers, it's not the first, nor will it be the last... as long as dumb *** kids buy mass marketed crap like this,

crexer

first PIC diss i've heard so what in your opinion is "good"?

94eg!

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crexer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">first PIC diss i've heard so what in your opinion is "good"?</TD></TR></TABLE>

It's hard to diss on PIC when the guy patrols the board about 24 hours a day. His customer service is really top notch, not to mention his help in this forum. Of all these style shocks, I think PIC is the only one that deserves any credit.

I know for a fact that the D2/Ksport guys read all these threads, yet they NEVER offer help/assistance to their customers.

PIC Performance

Not to mention I will call a mod to lock the thread if things get out of hand.

Seriously though, everyone has an opinion on H-T, and a few have facts. If people spent as much time offering facts as they do opinions, we might get somewhere. Otherwise, the only person that ends up paying for the resulting confusion/misinformation is the consumer.

HondaF1Fanatic

Plus we have yet to see a PIC coilover blow and in all honesty his shock dynos don't look half bad. I have never e-pooped on PIC, and won't until I see a good reason to do so. So far all they have done is take care of their customers and offer a relatively affordable product. I am still a Koni/GC person, but that is just a personal preference thing.

Jon

ShaunRR

Lets not forget that the PIC's have also won a few races. More than I can say for most of the other brands mentioned.

GarageAlchemist

well, I'm in all favor of being wrong. so what makes pic a different Taiwan made coilover than the others.. are they built with different grade components, better valves/piston? design?, better oil, etc ?

i think we can all agree d2 is junk.. and looks like ksport is in the same boat... does toser or d power make pic as well ?

crexer

http://www.picperformance.com and look at the specs

PIC Performance

i managed to hijack a computer. Nobody makes PIC's coilovers but PIC, and nobody sells PIC coilovers except for us and our Authorized Dealers. didn't we cover this before?

ATS*Mark

you guys forget one simple fact . these companies may buy from the same place but they get to choose what goes into them . the companies that skimp on materials and such are going to have a much shittier coilover coming from the same factory. its pretty ignorant to say that just because they all came from the same place makes them equal. d2 is shitty as expletive i had a test set and took them off right away . they were horrible.

jspecjoe

I am SOOO glad I read this I am looking to get coilovers to replace my buddy clubs this week. I was going to maybe buy the d2 brand. Or Ksport.
Buddy club called me about rebuilding my units but I cant get the dam springs off so they wont take them from me.
ANY suggestions on coilovers for 6-700.00 I can get shipped immediately?

1200 Hobos

iTrader: (7)

^ +1 I was contemplating d2's and omni's withought knowing much about d2's. As I was doing some research, not one forum had something about them, one review maybe, no way am I even considering them anymore, especially over omni's, sounded fishy to me from the beginning. "D2" since drifting has made it big eh? to d2 coilovers. PIC sound like a good idea, so do omni untill I'm more clear on height adjustment and spring rates of the PIC's for a 91 integra.

0urbanimport

This seems to be a simple communication problem that has gotten out of hand. I don’t know who you have been talking to but it is not D2 Racing North America. Of course D2 Australia is not going to handle your warranty claim. If you had a set of TEIN coilovers go bad would you contact TEIN UK? PIC Performance posted up our contact info on the first page, did you try calling or emailing us? We stand by our warranty and no we are not out of business. Also if you had a problem with the coilovers and couldn’t get a hold of D2 Racing North America as others have stated you should have talked to the dealer you bought them from. In 4 years of dealing with this suspension line I have NEVER seen 4 coilovers go defective at the same time. We have thousands of satisfied users in the US market.

Regardless, I am the owner and I will be more than happy to handle your claim personally, I just wish this was brought to my attention earlier. Our warranty process is very simple, all you need to do is email (michael@d2racing.com) or call us at 919-544-4171 show proof of when you purchased the coilovers and we will take care of it. Even if one of our dealers has taken care of your situation I would like to speak with you so we can figure out what went wrong and how to make sure it never happens again.

MrParks

hows it going Michael, look i try to explain this without going into detail, but yes it has gotten out of hand, im a very respectful guy, i try not to step on anyones toes, and deal with it behind closed doors to solve matters not needed to be an open topic. but i will answer some questions here which you aimed toward me.

i contacted your company out east and guess what, you wouldnt honor them since they came from the west. you have 2 sub divisions from what i was told. east and west. or so your staff said.....i went to the ends to go all the way to tiawan to speek on behalf of your product but no answer... this was back in i would say late 05?

then i got a hold of the dist here on the west which was on your website, and talked to a gentlemen there stating that he would do it if they came from the original buyers or suppliers i bought from. fine, no problem....i gave that info up and now you wanted to take a look at the shocks that were damaged that this whole ordeal was about.... lol i wasnt about to give up the only evidence that i had to say i own a set of d2's. since you guys wouldnt call tag them. which is understandable but at the same time if i did now that i think about it, i still wouldnt have suspension in my car unless i go buy another set. so he settled for pictures.... (note this has been over 8 months now....8 months back!! 16 months total time now ) yeah, 16. (note that the car didnt even see the floor yet nor was altered in anyway other then mock up. i have hundreds of build picks and people that saw my build on here and in person. )

i did that and guess what ? they told me that they dont honor d2's products becuase they have been getting 100's-1000's of complaints about them and they had to eat the money to warranty d2;s products, he mentioned that they had another brand he had coming that was of better quality and he could sell me them at a low rate,...wtf? i asked him"arent you guys d2? he replies with a no, we are the west coast dist for them" so who else would i have to talk to in order to get these things fixed? he replied i you can call the east coast dist. i laughed, then told him they told me the same thing... he didnt have anything else to say... trust me this has been going on for a while now, not just this past year. i tried everything to be kind and take into consideration of everyone directly involved and indirectly.

and to your amazement, yes all four of them went out the same time, without any....any load on them.

to be honest, i contacted every single d2 that i could find, nothing...... that in itself is a dam shame. nothing directed toward you guys, you seem like a good guy... but anything more then a down time of 4 weeks is enough for a answer i waited over a year and a hallf to say something, so dont go talking about out of hand, if i could find the emails i will foward them to you. then you'll see what really happened.

MrParks

now after all that, i let it be..... but i came accross it again when i was doing my 07 clean up and saw that it was even worse then before. it was all over the place. now, i was pist off, not to mention that i had to clean the stains on concrete.and my tires. whatever, anyhow a local racer told me that they had a myspace. to my amazement there it was, oh yeah... i talked with him on several occasions and he finally said he would honor them. okay! great, the good man said he would send out the shocks only and when i receive them put in a good word for d2. no...problem! i waited over 3 months with numerous messages i sent to him with no answer...

now, just a simple question for all of you guys, after a year and half, then being told you be getting a warranty set , then not having them come to you after 3 months, and avoiding messages like the plague, would you consider being out of hand?

Micheal, please... if you had any character you would prolly flip out about mmmmm a year and a half ago...

hey but if you can, im totally up for it man. but this is as far as i can go to be considerate. i think ive been plenty patient

MrParks

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funny, i dont think anyone got that memo....

0urbanimport

I guess i'm confused as to the timeline on when this started. As long as they were purchased in the US they will be covered under the warranty from either branch, I don't know why you would have been told otherwise. Please give me a call when you have a chance so we can get to the bottom of this.

R-Lug

damn, that's some shady business going on there. I wouldn't even give them the time of day anymore. It's like they slapped you in the face and now want to make it better by giving you a pity hug.

ThoseDarnKids

You know what goes a long way? Proper English. If I'm shopping for a new coilover suspension in a market with many options, but similar products, the company with an unprofessional appearance isn't going to give me very much confidence in trying their product. That D2 email just sounds uneducated. People want to deal with a company that maintains a professional appearance. I think that's part of the reason that PIC has established a good reputation on Honda-Tech.