lexluther

Hey, I have a 98 CIvic LX, it is stock and my gas mileage car. My problem is when driving on the interstates, or even back roads it seems to have more "body roll" than i am confortable with and cruising out on I75 it sometimes scares me. My struts pass the "bounce" test and seem good. Would coilover springs help? I know they lower and i wouldnt mind maybe lower an inch or 2 but will they help eliminate my body roll?

Thanks

JDM-KIDD

Get lowering springs... and if u want u can get Sway bar and strut bar...


But remember if u lower ur car tires will ware quicker

grumblemarc

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OMG.

lexluther

Really? even an inch maybe 2? What if i just put them on and don't lower it, my main concern is stability and body roll.

grumblemarc

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Maybe get some SI springs. I heard they were a bit stiffer (don't quote me) or a Ground Control/Koni setup with a stiffer spring rate. If you don't lower aggressively you should be set.

lexluther

My car is stock with new tires, i would hate to wear them out prematurely. So just basic aftermarket Coils wont help?.. I have heard they make your car bounce, i guess is the word.

b1u3_5i

My sister had the same issue you're having. Her front shocks passed the bounce test but her 99 civic still had scary body roll on highway speed. I replaced her front shocks and her body roll was gone.

canadaek

if you get an alignment it will not effect tire ware!

AutoXer

Uncontrolled body roll is usually cased by bad shocks. Pick up some Konis and Eibach sport kit springs. Get an alignment and set the toe as close to zero as possible.

Will lower your car less than an inch, tighten the suspension up and you won't have any different tire wear than you have now.

98civdx

SI/Integra rear sway bar.
Eibach sport lines, Koni Srt-t shocks.
Alignment.

Also, Look into replaceing and/or upgrading the bushings.

lexluther

I may try new struts first. My car does have 260,000 miles!

98civdx

Not bad, remember when you lower the car you NEED to get shocks that are built to handle that, or you will be replaceing again.

Take a look at the koni shock. It would work well with the stock spring, as well as some sort of lowering spring. Most coilovers (slip ons) have very high spring rates and will likely cause them to blow.

TwoFaced

Same reaction. Lowering your car doesn't wear out your tires any faster unless you get crazy with it. DEFINITELY not a blanket statement that all lowered cars tires wear faster.

More like if you lower your car, or do anything to the suspension and don't get a proper alignment your tires will wear faster.....

I'm not a big fan of coilovers for a daily driver.

If you change the springs and lower it at all...get a performance strut or you will blow them out within days...maybe months if you're lucky.

There's about a million different things you can do with your suspension to get a better feel...strut bars, upper, lower, rear, three point, h frames, sway bars, subframe braces, new struts, new springs, bushing replacement takes alot of the slop out.

PatrickGSR94

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With a quarter million miles and original OEM shocks, it's safe to say you need new shocks whether they pass the bounce test or not.

If you only want a mild drop, look into something like Koni STR.T shocks and Eibach ProKit springs. After those are installed, a simple 4-wheel alignment to correct toe is all you need to prevent tire wear.

If you really don't care about the drop and want to further reduce body roll in addition to the new shocks, you could just throw on a rear sway bar if you don't already have one. Does your car have a front sway bar?

jdmegcoupe93

if you want a stiffer ride and lower your car i would def. reccomend going with lowering springs cuz i had some skunk2 coilovers and they were 2dam bouncy for my daily driver. i went with kyb gr-2 shocks all the wayaround with tenzo R springs. i know TenzoR springs r not the best but i got them dirt cheap.. and as for tire wear idc what people say..u will def. get tire wear on the outside of the tires i would highly reccomend u getting camber kits front and back to keep your tires good. and dont go cheap with anything u buy for your car cuz cheap brand = money wasted im new to the honda game but know some stuff from experiance i've had

TwoFaced

^ NO! This camber kit arguement has been had over and over and over...it all boils down to the fact that negative camber doesn't affect tire wear much at all unless you really have your car slammed. ALSO it wouldn't be extra wear on the outside. I don't know wtf is wrong with your setup that you lowered your car and have positive camber and are wearing the outsides. Camber kits level things out for appearance...and will make tire wear SLIGHTLY less...but the real fix is a proper alignment. Camber kits often fail too, and leave you with extremely dangerous situations at high speeds, and enough damage costs that you could buy 4 new sets of tires. Some people have good luck with them...cool...more power to you. It's up to you to do the research and weigh the costs of camber kit vs replacing your tires 100 miles earlier than you normally would. IMHO it doesn't seem worth it for a daily driver especially if you're only dropping 2-2.5 in.

98civdx

Patrick, he should have a 22mm in front.

TwoFaced

^ on the LX?

98civdx

Yes, they had a front sway bar just, as the ex did. Just noithing in rear.

RyanA

Double check your sway bar end links. I'd say that a broken sway bar end link will have more to do with "roll" than worn out shocks. Worn shocks give you the feeling of driving a boat in water, they just kind of let the car go up and down. Double check end links and bushings for the sway bars.

I do agree that with 200k+ miles, your shocks could use replaced. On my 215000 mile 96 Civic DX 4 door with 150k on the shocks/springs, my car had no sway at all as I put on EM1 front control arms and sway bar and a rear sway bar. Car rode very well and ripped around curves pretty well for what it was.

joseincaliEJ8

so, in terms of coilovers..which do you guys recommend? Skunk2, F2's, or what else is there? I want to get my set up ready for my 98 coupe, but i want to make sure i go with the right stuff. I want a ride that is not too stiff, but handles well and performs well. What you guys recommend?

98civdx

Neither, look at koni/gc and start your own thread. We don't like thread jackers.

lexluther

I think i will just get replacements, they are more than likely stock, there is no way of knowing for sure.

My car doesnt really need lowering so i will just get factory replacement ones. I know it does have a sway bar but i dont remember if its front or rear, i just remember seeing one.

lexluther

Thanks for all the input.

98civdx

You don't have one in the read, unless it was added. Only the 99-00 SI came with a rear sway bar. You should have a front sway bar unless it was removed. jack the front end up, turn the wheel and take a peek.

Energy suspension makes front endlinks and bushings for your car, it could be worth it to check it out.
I did the ES bushings and it did make a difference in my car.