brototoy

a few weeks ago, i was following this lowered eg hatch and i noticed that the rear driver side wheel has more negative camber than the right. i didn't mind it though. then, last night, i was again following a lowered car, an SiR (ek sedan with b16a engine) this time, and i noticed the same problem.

that's when i got worried. i checked mine and found out that i too had the same problem 2.gif can shims fix that? or would that just push my wheel outward? same as what happened to my friend's car when i told him about my problem. can some bushings or some other suspension components be the culprit? thanks!nd t


Modified by brototoy at 5:21 PM 11/29/2007

PatrickGSR94

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If it's lower on the left side, which is usually the case, there will be more negative camber. Even more so when there is a driver sitting on the left side of the car.

Had an alignment done lately? Got a print out showing the alignment specs before and after?

Also, car frames are never perfect. Even if it's never been wrecked, a car's unibody is subjected to a certain amount of twisting and bending over the years as it's driven on all kinds of uneven surfaces. With no provisions for adjusting camber with stock parts, camber will almost always be different on all 4 corners, even if you set the car to the exact same ride height all around.

brototoy

yes i had it alligned, and the rear driver side wheel had more negative camber than the right. i didnt put in shims though because my friend did this to his, and the wheel straightened but got pushed out.

PatrickGSR94

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Well yeah, when there is negative camber, the top of the tire tilts inward. If you use shims on the upper control arm mount bolts, it pushes the top of the tire back out.

If camber is the same on both sides, then the top of the tire will be the same distance from the fender edge, unless there are bent body panels or bent/twisted unibody structure.

How much of a difference was the rear camber on your car? What suspension are you using? Have you measured to see if the ride height is the same at both rear wheels?

brototoy

i'm using espiller springs on stock shocks. left side is lower by almost 1 finger though. when my friend placed shims on his, the problematic wheel seems to be farther out from the body than the opposite wheel is.

is there a way to pull the lower part of the wheel in?

PatrickGSR94

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That's not possible, unless the lower control arms are different lengths, or unless the subframe has been damaged to push the whole assembly towards one side.

You may think it appears to be further out, when really it's only the top of the tire tilted farther out on the shimmed side vs. the other side.

brototoy

ok thanks boss

big_b45044

i have a 91 accord and my passenger wheel sits in at the top new uca both side sway bar bushings and end links. it making me mad any help would be great

PatrickGSR94

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You need to be more clear and provide more information.

Stock or modified suspension?
Any alignment work done recently, or ever, since last suspension modification?

If suspension is stock I would suspect damaged or bent suspension components, subframe, or unibody frame.

meb58

One can also sit in the car or place one's weight in the seat when an alignment is being performed...this is a halfway step, sort of, to corner balancing your car. This works IF the tech has lots of experience and IF all of your components are in proper working order. Otherwise the slight difference will be washed away by a poor alignment or worn parts.

PatrickGSR94

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You know this is a mad old thread right? Were you replying to the post just above mine or in general to the posts further up?