BWR vs ASR subframe brace...does the BWR SUCK?
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This is from the BWR website
Blackworks Racing Billet Rear Sub Frame Braces are designed using the latest and state of the art CAD design programs in the industry. Our Sub Frame Brace are manufactured in the USA and made from high quality AL6061-T6 billet aluminum.They will stiffen up your rear end giving your car better steering response and overall rigidity.Each one has a laser engraved logo, and are individually laser serialized number to guarantee authenticity. Includes all the necessary hardware for installation. Applications available for 88-95 Civic/CRX,94-01 Integra, and 96-00 Civic. Available in Raw Billet,Gold,Purple,Red,Green,Pink and Black. As well as other colors coming soon!!
So, you can't call it a Chinese knockoff.
Blackworks Racing Billet Rear Sub Frame Braces are designed using the latest and state of the art CAD design programs in the industry. Our Sub Frame Brace are manufactured in the USA and made from high quality AL6061-T6 billet aluminum.They will stiffen up your rear end giving your car better steering response and overall rigidity.Each one has a laser engraved logo, and are individually laser serialized number to guarantee authenticity. Includes all the necessary hardware for installation. Applications available for 88-95 Civic/CRX,94-01 Integra, and 96-00 Civic. Available in Raw Billet,Gold,Purple,Red,Green,Pink and Black. As well as other colors coming soon!!
So, you can't call it a Chinese knockoff.
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Re: BWR vs ASR subframe brace...does the BWR SUCK?
This is from the BWR website
Blackworks Racing Billet Rear Sub Frame Braces are designed using the latest and state of the art CAD design programs in the industry. Our Sub Frame Brace are manufactured in the USA and made from high quality AL6061-T6 billet aluminum.They will stiffen up your rear end giving your car better steering response and overall rigidity.Each one has a laser engraved logo, and are individually laser serialized number to guarantee authenticity. Includes all the necessary hardware for installation. Applications available for 88-95 Civic/CRX,94-01 Integra, and 96-00 Civic. Available in Raw Billet,Gold,Purple,Red,Green,Pink and Black. As well as other colors coming soon!!
So, you can't call it a Chinese knockoff.
Blackworks Racing Billet Rear Sub Frame Braces are designed using the latest and state of the art CAD design programs in the industry. Our Sub Frame Brace are manufactured in the USA and made from high quality AL6061-T6 billet aluminum.They will stiffen up your rear end giving your car better steering response and overall rigidity.Each one has a laser engraved logo, and are individually laser serialized number to guarantee authenticity. Includes all the necessary hardware for installation. Applications available for 88-95 Civic/CRX,94-01 Integra, and 96-00 Civic. Available in Raw Billet,Gold,Purple,Red,Green,Pink and Black. As well as other colors coming soon!!
So, you can't call it a Chinese knockoff.
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Re: BWR vs ASR subframe brace...does the BWR SUCK?
I bought a BNIB ASR for $100. (guy needed money) Now I need a rear sway bar. So which one do I get? Please don't try to make me feel like a jerk, I'm just asking!
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You can order the swaybar kit from ASR or get an ITR 22mm rear sway also. The ASR kit is designed specifically for the 22mm ITR style swaybar.
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i do like the looks of the ASR. My mechanic gave me hell about LCAs i got in a trade and this ASR as poser sh*#! So if I get the swaybar its legit. 22mm ASR rear swaybar, next on my list of stuff I dont really need!
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No I'm going to eventually buy a sway bar and use the ASR subframe brace. I like taking advantage of people who buy stuff for my car and then sell it to me after they figure out they can't afford to restore and modify their POS!
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That depends on your suspension setup, tires, weight (and weight distribution), differential, and how you want the car to handle compared to what it is currently doing. If you don't track or autocross, just get whatever is cheap and fulfills your asthetic requirements.
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I can't go too cheap. Its my toy so you dont wanna rub turds on your playthings. I have Tanabe Coilovers, Falken 205/50/15s, B16b w/ITR LSD, completely stock interior with stock front swaybar and f & r strut tower bars. I really only W/E drive this car, but want it to be setup better than my friends Boxster!
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I can't go too cheap. Its my toy so you dont wanna rub turds on your playthings. I have Tanabe Coilovers, Falken 205/50/15s, B16b w/ITR LSD, completely stock interior with stock front swaybar and f & r strut tower bars. I really only W/E drive this car, but want it to be setup better than my friends Boxster!
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Comparing parts purely based on appearance isn't good enough. Some people wouldn't pick up on more subtle aspects of a design, such as sharp corners on inside corners or the grade and size of fasteners or where reinforcements are placed. On something such as these braces, a cheaply made part could easily use an inferior alloy or use metals that are not hardened, where as a better part may use a stronger alloy that's been hardened.
It's like eBay or one of the knockoff companies (we all know them) vs F7 lower control arms. The eBay arms look fine, but they use inferior bushings.
It's like eBay or one of the knockoff companies (we all know them) vs F7 lower control arms. The eBay arms look fine, but they use inferior bushings.
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Re: BWR vs ASR subframe brace...does the BWR SUCK?
That is a good deal. They're also hard to find used because most people will just buy the cheaper ASR.
After talking to a Function7 rep the function7 is by far a superior product. If I spent $180 on an ASR bar I would immediately feel remorse over not having spent the extra $80 on a function7 bar.
Ultimately the extra price is worth it. A better looking bar with a better design, better metal, and more options for sway-bar compatibility.
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Not really the bushings dont hold up in stock lcas! and even the inserts dont hold up so Most people go with F7 because of the durabilty in the bushings! and it flows with the subframe
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That's odd, my friend has been autocrossing on his stock LCA's for 2 years and they are fine. Oh and, they have around 150k on them.
I know they're fine, becuase I just pulled them on saturday.
I know they're fine, becuase I just pulled them on saturday.
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Re: BWR vs ASR subframe brace...does the BWR SUCK?
Even new LCA's from the dealer are cheaper than the Blox/skunk2 variations I believe.
You can whine about unspring weight all you want. But when you're replacing your skunk2 bushings after 6 months, putting your OEM ones back in, or biting the bullet and buying Function7 LCAs you'll be wishing you'd gone OE or Function7 to begin with.