amr control arm ball joint boot or placement
06-09-2014, 10:54 AM
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I got a set of amr control arms and installed them on my car maybe a month ago. The boots turned out to be really badly dried out and have consequently torn. The car hasn't even been driven on the road due to motor issues. I tried contacting amr to no avail so I was wondering if anyone knew where I can get new boots for my ball joints/ what model are they? Pic for reference
This is on a 92 civic hatch if that's necessary
This is on a 92 civic hatch if that's necessary
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06-09-2014, 10:54 PM
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Energy Suspension does make boot kits for various Honda models. As long as the joint adhere's to Honda joint specs these replacement boots should fit.
Beware any contamination these joints may have received, sitting or not.
Beware any contamination these joints may have received, sitting or not.
06-10-2014, 08:48 AM
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They don't look at all like stock ball joints, that's why I was wondering if anyone knew which they were so I can get new dust boots. Pretty pissed at how shitty a product it is. Anyone know what happened to them?
06-10-2014, 08:50 AM
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Re: amr control arm ball joint boot or placement
Andy said that they were not OEM, but the equivalent or better. I can't remember exactly how he put it but it's mentioned in the thread in the Marketplace.
06-10-2014, 10:23 AM
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Sitting for a month with no driving and theres substantial surface rust on the hardware and dust boot. Something doesnt add up here.
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06-11-2014, 12:36 AM
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I think in the thread grumblemarc is refering to talks about using nok bushings. Either way they have to come out so you might as well look for a part number on it or some stampings.
06-11-2014, 04:25 AM
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Re: amr control arm ball joint boot or placement
NOK ball joints and hardened rubber bushings (with the option of poly).
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showpo...18&postcount=1
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06-13-2014, 10:01 AM
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Something else is weird here too. That boot looks very compressed and the castle nut is tightened so far that the cotter pin is doing absolutely no good.
Perhaps it's the wrong ball joint for that arm?
Perhaps it's the wrong ball joint for that arm?
06-13-2014, 10:23 AM
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I saw that too. Looking at my set it looks like you could twist that castle nut up that far and deform the boot like that if you weren't careful.
06-13-2014, 11:08 AM
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Perhaps. I torqued it to spec so that's not it. I'd love to have someone to discuss the issue with who actually knows specifics about this instead of just speculation. Really upset with their products
06-14-2014, 10:12 AM
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That is very odd, seeing as how they particularly state they have "nice stainless steel hardware as we wanted to provide quality, corrosion resistant parts"....
Not that there is really anything wrong with some surface rust. That little bit does not affect the bolts strength in any way.
Not that there is really anything wrong with some surface rust. That little bit does not affect the bolts strength in any way.
06-14-2014, 08:07 PM
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Lol what? You guys are seriously blaming the manufacturer? Edit* nevermind its just OP bitching, sometimes you learn the hard way buddy.
look at how he installed the cotter pin and castle nut. The cotter pin is meant to sit in the nut. That nut on incorrect, which likely lead to the failure.
this isn't a hardware problem is an installation problem. If you were to change ball joints the way you're suppose to, ie installing them correctly, I doubt there would be a problem.
look at how he installed the cotter pin and castle nut. The cotter pin is meant to sit in the nut. That nut on incorrect, which likely lead to the failure.
this isn't a hardware problem is an installation problem. If you were to change ball joints the way you're suppose to, ie installing them correctly, I doubt there would be a problem.
06-14-2014, 08:19 PM
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http://s1372.photobucket.com/user/fa...2486e.jpg.html
thats how I installed my aftermarket NASCAR brand ball joints, the way they're suppose to be. With the cotter pin in the castle nut. Lol this isn't a job for an impact wrench its suppose to be done with a socket wrench if not by hand.
thats how I installed my aftermarket NASCAR brand ball joints, the way they're suppose to be. With the cotter pin in the castle nut. Lol this isn't a job for an impact wrench its suppose to be done with a socket wrench if not by hand.
06-14-2014, 09:41 PM
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look at how he installed the cotter pin and castle nut. The cotter pin is meant to sit in the nut. That nut on incorrect, which likely lead to the failure.
this isn't a hardware problem is an installation problem. If you were to change ball joints the way you're suppose to, ie installing them correctly, I doubt there would be a problem.
this isn't a hardware problem is an installation problem. If you were to change ball joints the way you're suppose to, ie installing them correctly, I doubt there would be a problem.
Also, the way the cotter pin is installed in that picture is incorrect.
If you want to tell someone they did something so totally wrong, maybe you should do them the right way yourself...
06-15-2014, 06:16 AM
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Tightened via a torque wrench left the castle nut way higher up then the cotter pin leaving it effectively useless... So yes I am blaming the manufacturer. My stock lower ball joints went on perfectly with the cotter pin lined up between the fingers of the castle nut.
The entire intent for this thread was to figure out which ball joints I can buy as a suitable replacement since the ones on it obviously are but correct. This is what happens when you stock pile arts and install them all way after having received them
The entire intent for this thread was to figure out which ball joints I can buy as a suitable replacement since the ones on it obviously are but correct. This is what happens when you stock pile arts and install them all way after having received them
06-15-2014, 08:15 AM
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Re: amr control arm ball joint boot or placement
Tightened via a torque wrench left the castle nut way higher up then the cotter pin leaving it effectively useless... So yes I am blaming the manufacturer. My stock lower ball joints went on perfectly with the cotter pin lined up between the fingers of the castle nut.
The entire intent for this thread was to figure out which ball joints I can buy as a suitable replacement since the ones on it obviously are but correct. This is what happens when you stock pile arts and install them all way after having received them
The entire intent for this thread was to figure out which ball joints I can buy as a suitable replacement since the ones on it obviously are but correct. This is what happens when you stock pile arts and install them all way after having received them
06-16-2014, 10:13 AM
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Are you the guy who uses a torque wrench on his wheels too?
would you rather have the pin in the castle or way below it? Prolly should get it aligned and have everything adjusted and dialed in though lol, brand new suspension and no alignment. I hate tires.
would you rather have the pin in the castle or way below it? Prolly should get it aligned and have everything adjusted and dialed in though lol, brand new suspension and no alignment. I hate tires.