civicjuna

Hello,
I just delirious but I'm starting loved the big brake Civic: lol:
I'd like to create this post to talking a little more of it's Big Brakes for Civic Ek ..

What are the most famous brand?

What kind of added diameter?

You must change it for specific parts?

Is there a provision of concern about installing it is big brake?

What is the difference between D2, StopTech, Wilwood, K-Sport etc. ... ?

When we only have one EJ9/EJ6/EK3 you change it to the brake cylinder or the brain?







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Deetz

There are many brands out there. Because of their important in quality, i would say they are all very similar. If often comes down to price in most cases. Others buy them because they look cool. Do they stop much faster on the street? Not much.......but they will perform a lot better on the track for repeated use, because they are better against brake fade.

Keep in mind two other things:

- they are very heavy!!!
- they often require a lot of attention to fitment depending on what wheels you run. Many, not all require spacers and/or larger wheels

In my opinion, the best deals out there are either used, or "Fastbrakes" have the best seals i know of

civicjuna

Deetz : thank you for all your information,
it will help me in the near future for an installed kit big brakes,

Now if I plan to put the Wilwood 262mm 4pistons,
are what I should change a specific room?
meter cylinders, brake brain etc. ...

Deetz

A lot of people upgrade civic's to the larger Integra Type R brake booster and master cylinder

civicjuna

if really necessary I will do it on my honda civic
thank you to you for information

http://www.risingsunperformance.nl/w...c-del-sol.html

HulkSmash

Monoblock calipers are heavier than the factory floaters?

civicjuna

more weight and heavier than the origins?
I personally do not know,

I am interested in is big brakes,
because I'd like to swap my civic and good curb in the same occasion

FlewByU352

I'm not a fan of Wilwood. I feel like they are a cheap way to get into big brake kits with not a huge amount of gain to be made, rather they only save weight. Spoon are literally like ITR calipers but have better modulation and are lighter.

civicjuna

this is true only for big Wilwood brakes it is not expensive
but there are probably reliable if he sell it?

http://www.wilwood.com/BrakeKits/Bra...%20HX%20Models

FlewByU352

It's rare to see 6 piston calipers on a Civic though. What exactly are you trying to accomplish with your brake setup? Bling factor? Reduced weight? Better modulation? Fade resistance? More stopping power?

civicjuna

my goal is to have a big brake to slow my civic,
I later swap for a B-series,
in a not too high budjet

because with oem brake, I do not like
then I learn about honda tech and see if you can help me

Kozy.

Your stock brakes will slow your Civic. Why do you want a big brake kit? What do you think it will do better?

My take on it is thus:

A set of well matched stock brakes off a higher spec car will do a perfectly good job of stopping your car again and again.

Wilwood make some half decent universal calipers, you just need to pick your piston sizes wisely as they are not made for any specific car. Some have reports of flexing, which affects pedal feel. Decent value if not the last word in performance.

Stoptech make good quality stuff with a reasonable amount of R&D put into specifying a kit for a certain car, making sure the bias is good and the ABS is not affected.

Brembo/AP/Alcon are the dogs bollocks, you won't go wrong with these, but they are mega money so unless you are a serious endurance racer, you are wasting your money as you will not reap the benefits of them.

D2/KSport and all those other companies produce knock offs of the brand name kits. Questionable R&D into kit/car matching and general quality control on materials and manufacturing. The people that buy them like them, but the people that 'know' brakes will buy the proper stuff, which leaves some doubt over the validity of the reviewers themselves.

civicjuna

KOMODO your exellent advise,
I think it will help another person on a big brake choose and put on their car ..

thank you very much for the information, me anyway I made my choice

FlewByU352

The picture of your car is cool but it's getting rather annoying not being in your signature and being included in every post you make.

civicjuna

woops, deso I will transfer the message
but thank you

Kozy.

Not sure where you are coming from on this.

What are you expecting a Wilwood to do which it doesn't?

How are the Spoons just like ITR calipers?

BlazedD

iTrader: (17)

lol!! 4 piston calipers are 'literally like' 1 piston calipers; LITERALLY hahaha

civicjuna, first do an engine swap, then worry about brakes.

Kozy.

ITR calipers are single piston are they not?

BlazedD

iTrader: (17)

yes they are! wrote 4/2 instead of 4/1 lol

94eg!

iTrader: (2)

Spoon twin-block calipers are like ITR floating calipers in that they are a direct bolt on replacment, use the same brake pad, and have the same total piston surface area. Of course the 4-pistons give more even pad wear, and the fixed-style caliper gives a stiffer pedal and better modulation. Spoon Monoblocks are a little different and have slightly less piston area which makes for a more aggressive brake setup. I believe they were originally designed for the S2000.

If you have big enough wheels (usually 17's), I would go with Stoptech they are easily the best aftermarket brake system around. If you don't believe me, read the following thread. This guy is super **** and does real stopping distance tests under relatively controlled conditions. The test car is an 04-06 Acura TL Automatic switching from crappy Rotoras to a less expensive Stoptech kit. He types a lot but the final results are in one of the last posts on page 2: http://tl.acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=854021

If you run smaller wheels, the best going is probably ITR brakes with spoon calipers. If you want to get really fancy you can add Stoptech floating front rotors. Keep in mind the ITR f&r suspension is expensive, the spoon calipers are expensive, and the stoptech rotors are expensive. Probably money better spent elsewhere. Especially if your not racing.

BTW: I don't think Brembo kits are all they are cracked up to be. There was a test done on a 350Z where they could not get the Gran Turismo kit to perform as well as the base models floating calipers. Stopping distance was way off. Sure it had better fade resistance, but that is just not that important on a street car. I honestly don't think these hugely expensive kits are really that good without adjustable proportioning valves.

civicjuna

I was expecting this response style, ........
Now if you tell me that this is the Wilwood 4pistons that looks like a piston or two because it is small, or that it's not good, .......... I certainly other choices,

tell me what are the good brake that can hinder a B18c6?
having a good braking capability and long-term qualiter

I hear about me ITR caliper disc with Rover ZR,
you say what??

Kozy.

Quite...

I know English is not your first language but it is a bit difficult to understand what you are saying in the post above.

What I think you said:

"If Wilwoods have small pistons then that is not good, I'll look at some other choices."

"What brakes are good for a B18C6, with good stopping power and long term quality?"

"What about the ITR caliper with MG (Rover) ZR discs?"

The MG brakes (caliper AND rotor) are a good setup, the full kit front and rear will do a perfect job of stopping a B18C powered EK as it is identical to the kit fitted as stock to the ITR. It is a very common choice for Civics in the UK do to the abundance of broken MGs. This, coupled with decent pads is all you need, anything more is only going to be for looks.

civicjuna

so very sorry for my English,
I am using my basic English and google translation: p


thank you for the information of rover brake

but now on a selection of big brakes kit, you tell me what??

- wilwood
- D2
- Stoptech
- Rover + caliper ITR
- Other...

thanks

Kozy.

Like I said, the Rover kit (You don't use ITR calipers on the Rover kit by the way, you use Rover calipers AND discs.) will do the job just fine and will be cheap, it is all you need. Anything up from that and you are really going just for the looks, on the road you'll not see any difference in performance, other than the pedal feel a bit better. It's purely in the want category.

If you really are set on having a BBK then Stoptech would get my money.

I wouldn't touch D2 stuff with a bargepole though.

civicjuna

thank you very much for your information

to be honest a brake caliper + Rover is good,
but adding the most beautiful effect with larger caliper <3





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