Problems on a 92 accord after fuel injector cleaner
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Problems on a 92 accord after fuel injector cleaner
I have 92 accord with an automatic transmission with 184,183 miles.
I changed my dirty carbon filled spark plugs with new ones and did an oil and oil filter change on Sunday night. On Monday I decided to try out a fuel injector cleaner because I felt that the car wasn't giving its full potential .It felt sluggish and bogging when I would step on it. I've owned it for about a year and previous owner didn't take care of it. I filled up the gas tank and added an STP fuel injector cleaner. I got home and had to leave about 20 minutes after I turned it off. I turned it on and ALOT of white smoke. I eventually got it to start without smoke. I checked the oil to make sure it wasn't my headgasket. So far after that it sometimes turn on with out smoke sometimes with just a bit and sometimes with a lot . Sometimes I doesn't want to turn on until I try a few times and have to step on the gas. Also after the STP injector cleaner,my car has started to do the idling problem I've had before . It goes from 1k to 15k. I did notic a change of acceleration after the fuel treatment. Ran a bit better the first time I drove it with the STP . I've stepped on the gas all the way down in hope that it was just dirt getting cleaned up. Also a strange whistling noise I had before the treatment all of a sudden went away so that's good.
Any input is appreciated ,thanks
I changed my dirty carbon filled spark plugs with new ones and did an oil and oil filter change on Sunday night. On Monday I decided to try out a fuel injector cleaner because I felt that the car wasn't giving its full potential .It felt sluggish and bogging when I would step on it. I've owned it for about a year and previous owner didn't take care of it. I filled up the gas tank and added an STP fuel injector cleaner. I got home and had to leave about 20 minutes after I turned it off. I turned it on and ALOT of white smoke. I eventually got it to start without smoke. I checked the oil to make sure it wasn't my headgasket. So far after that it sometimes turn on with out smoke sometimes with just a bit and sometimes with a lot . Sometimes I doesn't want to turn on until I try a few times and have to step on the gas. Also after the STP injector cleaner,my car has started to do the idling problem I've had before . It goes from 1k to 15k. I did notic a change of acceleration after the fuel treatment. Ran a bit better the first time I drove it with the STP . I've stepped on the gas all the way down in hope that it was just dirt getting cleaned up. Also a strange whistling noise I had before the treatment all of a sudden went away so that's good.
Any input is appreciated ,thanks
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Re: Problems on a 92 accord after fuel injector cleaner
Also going to try and clean up my iacv tomorrow . I checked out my FITV and it was screwed all the way but I decided to tighten it and broke pieces off but it's still there.
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Did you use the correct replacement spark plugs or some 'performance' plug.
Pull the plugs and look at how they are burning.
Often, when replacing ignition components the spark will be much stronger and will burn off excess carbon from the cylinder head/piston tops. Verify that the plugs are not becoming fouled with burned up carbon deposits.
Pull the plugs and look at how they are burning.
Often, when replacing ignition components the spark will be much stronger and will burn off excess carbon from the cylinder head/piston tops. Verify that the plugs are not becoming fouled with burned up carbon deposits.
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I bough the NGK-GP-Platinum-Spark-Plug zfr5fgp ones.
Yea haven't had the chance to check the spark plugs. Gonna try that as soon as the engine cools down
Yea haven't had the chance to check the spark plugs. Gonna try that as soon as the engine cools down
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I was able to take a quick not so good pic before work the other day and the new spark plug looks to be white from the tip and a little black from where the screwing surface starts
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Re: Problems on a 92 accord after fuel injector cleaner
Also another problem has come up. My car overheats but it does not show it on my temperature needle . The needle stays between hot and cold. My fans starts and turn on. I was only able to tell that it overheats from all the steam that it pushes out thru the cap of the reservoir. My reservoir has water in it but the radiator doesn't suck it up. I had the radiator "fixed" about a year ago. Hope someone has some suggestions. Water pump?
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Find the bleeder nipple on the backside of the thermostat on the intake manifold. With a 12mm open end wrench crack open the nipple and verify that there is no air in the system.
With the engine warmed up, useing a towel to not burn yourself with, crack open the radiator. Look for any bubbles in the coolant.
Next thing to do would be to do a compression check.
But if you are pumping out steam from the exhaust, you may have head gasket issues.
With the engine warmed up, useing a towel to not burn yourself with, crack open the radiator. Look for any bubbles in the coolant.
Next thing to do would be to do a compression check.
But if you are pumping out steam from the exhaust, you may have head gasket issues.
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Re: Problems on a 92 accord after fuel injector cleaner
Find the bleeder nipple on the backside of the thermostat on the intake manifold. With a 12mm open end wrench crack open the nipple and verify that there is no air in the system.
With the engine warmed up, useing a towel to not burn yourself with, crack open the radiator. Look for any bubbles in the coolant.
Next thing to do would be to do a compression check.
But if you are pumping out steam from the exhaust, you may have head gasket issues.
With the engine warmed up, useing a towel to not burn yourself with, crack open the radiator. Look for any bubbles in the coolant.
Next thing to do would be to do a compression check.
But if you are pumping out steam from the exhaust, you may have head gasket issues.
After I got burned I turned the car off and I poured in water. What I noticed that this time it did get topped of not like other times that I keeled pouring and pouring and water still didn't top off the radiator . After I drove home without hearing any steam.
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Re: Problems on a 92 accord after fuel injector cleaner
I use coolant but it used it all up so I've been using water until I can hopefully resolve this problem
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It would be best to use coolant. Coolant also acts as a lubricant for the WP seals. Straight water, especially tap water, can be harsh on the WP seals.
Why was the head gasket replaced? Was the head itself checked for flatness?
If the temp gauge was only measuring air, rather than coolant, then you can overheat the engine due to lack of coolant without knowing it.
Why was the head gasket replaced? Was the head itself checked for flatness?
If the temp gauge was only measuring air, rather than coolant, then you can overheat the engine due to lack of coolant without knowing it.
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Re: Problems on a 92 accord after fuel injector cleaner
what ^^^^ he said. your obviously burning coolant. also it would be a good idea to have the head resurfaced before you put it back on for peace of mind that way you know its a flat surface. and check the block for flatness although that rarely warps.
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Re: Problems on a 92 accord after fuel injector cleaner
Took a pic of the spark plugs.
Top is #1 cylinder bottom is #4
Cylinder #4 thre water out when I checked the compression on#1
Compression test
Cylinder #1 -185
Cylinder #2 -180
Cylinder #3 -180
Cylinder #4 -200
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Im hopeing it aint the headgasket but not sure.
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Re: Problems on a 92 accord after fuel injector cleaner
I opened the bleeder nipple and coolant came out. Ive left the car on for about an hour already and so far no steam thru the reservoir. I open the radiator cap and coolant is still there unlike before.fan turns on and off regularly. No steam thru the radiator cap hole. And no stram thru the dipstick hole either. Hope this is good news for me
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Re: Problems on a 92 accord after fuel injector cleaner
I took out the car out for a drive and the car started to overheat about 20 minutes after.
I tried pouring water in the radiator while the car was on and it spit the water back out.
I tried pouring water in the radiator while the car was on and it spit the water back out.
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I decided to change the thermostat just to make sure It wasn't that and when I took off the thermostat housing I found out that there wasn't a thermostat there. I put in a new one and going to see if that helps me out .
Here's a few pics
Here's a few pics
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You see all that corrosion. That's because you're using tap water in your cooling system instead of 50/50 coolant like you're required to do. The likelyhood of you sustaining a crack somewhere in your engine magnifies significantly.
Tap water has minerals whose sole job is to corrode and destroy engine components and cooling system components.
I'm thinking your water pump has corroded to the point where it's not longer functioning anymore. That fan switch may not work anymore either. When your car overheats see if the fans even bother coming on anymore.
Tap water has minerals whose sole job is to corrode and destroy engine components and cooling system components.
I'm thinking your water pump has corroded to the point where it's not longer functioning anymore. That fan switch may not work anymore either. When your car overheats see if the fans even bother coming on anymore.
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You see all that corrosion. That's because you're using tap water in your cooling system instead of 50/50 coolant like you're required to do. The likelyhood of you sustaining a crack somewhere in your engine magnifies significantly.
Tap water has minerals whose sole job is to corrode and destroy engine components and cooling system components.
I'm thinking your water pump has corroded to the point where it's not longer functioning anymore. That fan switch may not work anymore either. When your car overheats see if the fans even bother coming on anymore.
Tap water has minerals whose sole job is to corrode and destroy engine components and cooling system components.
I'm thinking your water pump has corroded to the point where it's not longer functioning anymore. That fan switch may not work anymore either. When your car overheats see if the fans even bother coming on anymore.
Both fans work . They come on from time to time.they work normal
I had the head gasket changed last year aroind this time and im sure my mechanic did everything rite to put another head back on. He said my water pump was in ok condition when he did the headgasket . Im gonna check my fitv and iacv and if that doesnt solve my problem them im gonna chanhe the wayer pump.
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Re: Problems on a 92 accord after fuel injector cleaner
Ever since the headgasket was changed I used 50/50 coolant. I satrted using water since the problem with the fuel injector started. I was gonna wait till the car got fixed to use collant but ima use coolant now