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I entirely agree. j32 power in a unassuming Civic sedan is the new sleeper for Hondas. No matter how you try to do it, this will still be quieter and will idle quieter than a turbo'd 4 cylinder or an all-motor 4 cylinder.
Even my all stock 91 Si is louder in every way compared to the v6 in my TL.
Even my all stock 91 Si is louder in every way compared to the v6 in my TL.
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I might have missed but which has port mounts are you using and what is the oil pan clearance?
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I just did a quick measurement, the oilpan is about 6.5" below the center line of the steering rack. Kind of a strange way to measure but it was the best I could do since the front has been sliced off the car. Currently just above stock ride height the pan is 5.5" off the ground, which seems to be okay, still haven't scraped.
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I assume you are running the Auto Harness with the 6 speed, was there any issues with connectors on the harnes and the 6MT? Do they use the same plugs? This is the only thing I am confused about with my swap. I plan on running an auto J32A2 with a TL 6 speed and AEM for ECU.
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I assume you are running the Auto Harness with the 6 speed, was there any issues with connectors on the harnes and the 6MT? Do they use the same plugs? This is the only thing I am confused about with my swap. I plan on running an auto J32A2 with a TL 6 speed and AEM for ECU.
If you are using an auto ecu you will have to run an auto engine too, all the sensors are different from the auto to manual engines. They are also different plugs on the ecu so a manual harness won't fit into a manual ecu. If you check the AEM Manual(pdf) it talks you through most of the process pretty well.
Good luck man.
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Thanks man, I think I understand now what I need and how to do it. That PDF explains all the extra wiring.
I was aware of the differences in the auto/manual engines and harnesses. Just couldn't find anything on the transmission part of the harnesses but since they are the same I am good to go now on ordering some parts.
Thanks again.
I was aware of the differences in the auto/manual engines and harnesses. Just couldn't find anything on the transmission part of the harnesses but since they are the same I am good to go now on ordering some parts.
Thanks again.
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Had some fun this weekend wrapping my intake pipe. While moving the intake air is exactly the same as ambient temperature, there is just a little heat soak at idle. I saw ~+12f during testing. This may not make much of a difference , but I really like the look.
Here is what the engine bay looked like last time.
There were 2 small cracks I fixed up
It took 30' of 1.5" to do this pipe.
And some teasers for he ITB setup I'm working on. Dual Triumph 1050 throttle bodies.
Here is what the engine bay looked like last time.
There were 2 small cracks I fixed up
It took 30' of 1.5" to do this pipe.
And some teasers for he ITB setup I'm working on. Dual Triumph 1050 throttle bodies.
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I was going through plans for setting up some kind of traction control with AEM. Decided to try out the Xenocron rear wheel speed kit to get a clean speed input.
Had to do a small amount of clearancing to make it fit. I ended up using .032" between the studs and sensor, so far the output is really clean.
Unfortunately I am having trouble setting it up, the AEM forum has been down for quite a while so I am kind of on my own. Had some good luck using the 3 step, still needs some tweaking, and only helps in first. I think on good tires the car would start to hook in 3rd, running race warn 205 Falken Azenis is not providing any more traction than my 420 tread wear tires.
You can see how good the speed output is from the sensor in this log.
Attachment 525476
Another problem is that the speed signal is not being output to the dash. I assume this is because AEM is just intercepting the speed signal and outputting it, without the new calculations, so the dash would read 1-2 MPH with using only 4 pickups per revolution.
Still working on the ITBs too.
Just need to figure out the linkage and vacuum setup.
Had to do a small amount of clearancing to make it fit. I ended up using .032" between the studs and sensor, so far the output is really clean.
Unfortunately I am having trouble setting it up, the AEM forum has been down for quite a while so I am kind of on my own. Had some good luck using the 3 step, still needs some tweaking, and only helps in first. I think on good tires the car would start to hook in 3rd, running race warn 205 Falken Azenis is not providing any more traction than my 420 tread wear tires.
You can see how good the speed output is from the sensor in this log.
Attachment 525476
Another problem is that the speed signal is not being output to the dash. I assume this is because AEM is just intercepting the speed signal and outputting it, without the new calculations, so the dash would read 1-2 MPH with using only 4 pickups per revolution.
Still working on the ITBs too.
Just need to figure out the linkage and vacuum setup.
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Thanks bud
I would love to do something insane like that. We have a friend that turbo'd a 50cc scooter and that thing must have a 25mm turbo on it.
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I've seen a couple tiny turbos on youtube..
If I've ever seen someone capable of the fab work required, it's you.
any idea where your friend got that turbo?
If I've ever seen someone capable of the fab work required, it's you.
any idea where your friend got that turbo?
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Going to the 1/8th mile on saturday, got the car on 23s and scaled in. Added some million year old Tanabe Sustec Pro for rear suspension to keep the squat down. We are going to bring some 24s as well if the clutch holds up that long.
Without driver car weight is 2300lb
Without driver car weight is 2300lb
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Great day at the 8th mile. Clutch held up great car was even chirping into 3rd which is surprising to say the least for a factory replacement clutch. I fully expected to blow it out first hit, and planned to order the Clutch Masters kit on Monday. We showed up at the track at around 5, got in line and immediately it started to sprinkle. Took about an hour to clear so I took the time to setup my logging and reconfigure my dash switches. Temps were around 70 all day but I'm not sure what the DA was. Run 1 was done with 8.5psi in the tires and the 2 step at 3200, the speed coming from the rear tires seems to have helped the 2 step but might not be necessary. Also lifting on all shifts, hit the limiter in 3rd right at the start of the trap, rode it out, flat foot after the first run. No logs since I setup AEM incorrectly :-\. Here is the break down, first 3 on 23" tires, last 2 on 24.5".
RT 0.4795 | 60' 1.9059 | 330' 5.554 | ET 8.473 | MPH 82.60
RT 0.0034 | 60' 1.8443 | 330' 5.386 | ET 8.243 | MPH 86.22 < hit 4th through the trap
RT 0.3234 | 60' 1.8937 | 330' 5.474 | ET 8.367 | MPH 82.78
We decided to try out the 24.5" since the clutch was holding up to the higher RPM launch and lower pressure in the tires. Started at 8psi, hit the limiter in 3rd right at the end of the trap.
Car on 24.5"
RT 0.5812 | 60' 1.8707 | 330' 5.388 | ET 8.222 | MPH 86.97
Sitting in the staging lane they announced last runs so we hail married, raised the launch to 4500 and dropped the tires to 7psi.
RT -.2743 | 60' 1.7500 | 330' 5.240 | ET 8.085 | MPH 86.62
I was shooting for at least a 1.7 60' and am super pleased to pull it out on the last run!